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Objectification, hate, rape threats: the politicians debating online abuse mean well, but to truly understand, they need to see what I see

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 7 points 44 minutes ago

the politicians debating online abuse mean well

Hard disagree.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 21 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

That sounds awful why would you keep using a platform like that?

[–] capt_kafei@lemmy.ca 5 points 43 minutes ago (2 children)

Presumably because all of her friends do, and if she quits using it, then she'll be left out of her friends' group chats on IG and be out of the loop on jokes and memes between her friends. Might seem unimportant to an adult, but devastating for a teenager.

Your comment is similar to saying "cyberbullying isn't real, just turn off the PC". Because getting pushed out of social spaces on the internet leaves kids feeling isolated, and deprives them of access to shared spaces that their friends use to connect with each other.

One might say "They can just connect in person!" Presumably they do, but the internet is an inescapable part of modern life and that is unlikely to change. We should push for a better internet, rather than telling people to simply stop using it if they're suffering.

[–] XiELEd@piefed.social 3 points 27 minutes ago

I used to be bullied hard in elementary for being neurodivergent and "living under a rock", and I did not know what was cool or uncool because I didn't have WiFi at home. To illustrate how ridiculous it was, I got bullied for playing Minecraft to the point that if I left my redstone blueprints on my table they would crumple it, and whenever I ate vegetables they would say, "ew vegetables!!!".

[–] Kellenved@sh.itjust.works 1 points 36 minutes ago

But what’s the cost of them being forced to use these online spaces to connect? Is it greater or less than the cost of not using them at all? Seems to me the balance is going farther and farther to the side of using them being worse than not every day. Body shaming, predators, addiction. We didn’t let kids smoke because it increased their social circle did we?

[–] Lorindol@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 hour ago

This young woman is an exceptional writer. Not many her age can achieve such coherency and well laid structure in longer essays.

I hope she will continue using her skills and keep fighting against this new rise of misogyny.

[–] Kellenved@sh.itjust.works 2 points 40 minutes ago

Hopefully the next generation of girls and boys growing up just never starts using these shit platforms and they all collapse under their own bullshit in the next few years. Social media is absolutely not necessary and is actively detrimental to good health.

[–] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

I heard a comedian once compare the Internet to driving in traffic. A lot of people in the Internet treat each other like crap. I would argue that it's even promoted on some platforms. I don't see this changing.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 69 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

the politicians debating online abuse mean well

Let me stop you there

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 43 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'd give her a pass for being 15

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 points 3 minutes ago

That's fair. She'll get it.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 45 points 3 hours ago

NEVER use social media that requires your personal information. Try not to use it at all.

This is a voluntary social disease. It’s not necessary.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

She doesn't know the half of it. She's a good kid

[–] artyom@piefed.social 6 points 2 hours ago (4 children)

I empathize but what does she want? People are assholes. They're assholes on social media and they're assholes everywhere else.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 9 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

If only we could hold social media's billionaires accountable or something. Unfortunately, that is impossible, and we can and should never imagine a better world.

(It's kind of interesting that in a thread about Flock surveillance, people are talking about destroying the nodes. While in a thread about a girl getting abused online, there's a whole lot more defeatism all around.)

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 points 39 minutes ago

I generally want to make billionaires pay, just as a general rule.

But I don't see this one specific instance being their fault.

We used to burn women alive if they knew how to do math. Since that time, things have gotten a little bit better. But not much.

People are assholes. All around you are assholes. These assholes go online and continue to be assholes.

[–] artyom@piefed.social -1 points 57 minutes ago (1 children)

There's a little thing called "free speech". Govt doesn't have the power to regulate speech.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 2 points 52 minutes ago (1 children)

Sorry what? Tech billionaires don't have to enable the free speech of sexually harassing a child online.

And if your argument is that sexually harassing a child online is "free speech" - and that's the best argument you have - that's not a good argument.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 44 minutes ago

What kind of accountability were you referring to? Were you expecting tech billionaires to hold themselves accountable?

[–] deltaspawn0040@lemmy.zip 29 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Well, uh... I think she wants people to get better. Like all of us.

[–] Goatboy@lemmy.today 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Best we can do is find new ways to be assholes.

[–] kurwa@lemmy.world 1 points 56 minutes ago

Moderation? All mainstream social media has done away with it and blatantly allows that stuff to happen.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 1 points 1 hour ago

Platforms could moderate their content. They choose not to.

[–] MetalSlugX@piefed.social -1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (3 children)

In no way discounting her experience, but it's almost like she's a woman and not a man and she sees things from the woman's perspective.

It's a cruel reality, and without having to do a battle of the sexes comparison, everybody gets this bullshit, regardless of gender identity or sex.

Ever been a man and walked into a woman's online space and see the bullshit that goes on there, the horrible accusations, derogatory dialogue? Ever been falsely accused of sexual impropriety by a woman who's just looking to hold power?

People are assholes, and when you go on a platform filled with assholes, they're going to be assholes. Solution, stop going to those places and live in the real world.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 hour ago

Ever been a man and walked into a woman's online space

Yes, and it's miles better than most men's online spaces

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 points 42 minutes ago (1 children)

Solution, stop going to those places and live in the real world.

Agreed with you until this point. You realize the people online are the same people from real life, right?

[–] MetalSlugX@piefed.social 1 points 7 minutes ago

That's not how it works, perhaps you might want to close your apps for a few weeks and live in the real world and then you will realize it is nothing like the online spaces.

[–] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I might be wrong but it just seems like you stopped short of saying “not all men”. Did you forget that bit?

[–] MetalSlugX@piefed.social 1 points 7 minutes ago

I would encourage you to read what is said and try to understand it, versus taking this tired, feeble, accusatory approach.