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[–] OmgItBurns@discuss.online 1 points 11 minutes ago

Dreamweaver is still used? I used it a bit back in the day when Macromedia was around and shortly after Adobe got a hold of it. How does it work with the modern web? Does it work well with modern programming languages or is it still just a WYSIWYG HTML editor?

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

What the actual fuck is adobe acrobat? A pdf editor with subscription model payment? Firefox, the browser, can edit pdf files. It's 2025.

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago* (last edited 8 minutes ago)

Firefox can do basic annotating, adding text and adding pictures but it can't make a new PDF from scratch.

You may be confusing Adobe Acrobat Reader with Adobe Acrobat? Full Acrobat is the proprietary tool to make a PDF file from scratch including some of the more complex functions.

PDF is an open standard and has been for a while, so there are now plenty of alternatives for most of the functions. LibreOffice Draw and Inkscape can do a lot of PDF creation functions but not all. There are also "print to PDF" options to create basic PDF documents too.

However some of the more niche functions are not widely supported or well supported; and there isn't really any opensource dedicated PDF maker that I'm aware of. Layout tools are abundant but I think it's things like building forms and document signing that is less easily replicated. There is Master PDF - a fully functional PDF maker which is proprietary and available for Linux; it $80 for a perpetual license. I'm not aware of any other alternatives myself.

[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 4 points 59 minutes ago (3 children)

Adobe acrobat is THE PDF editor. PDF is a proprietary format created and developed by Adobe. Any software that can edit PDFs is doing so in a format they do not have any control over. And there just aren't any proper PDF editors that are feature complete. now if you're an individual who needs to make a PDF in the privacy of your own home, by all means, use a cheap or free or FOSS application to do so. But if you need that PDF to be readable and useable and seamlessly compatible on other computers for other users for ever? Better pay the Adobe tax because there is a good chance, it won't look the way you expect it to when someone opens it up in Adobe which their company definitely has.

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 1 points 4 minutes ago* (last edited 1 minute ago)

I'm not sure this true - PDF is an open standard. The issue isn't with layout and reproducibility - a good PDF maker and a good reader will give you an accurate representation of how it looks on all devices.

Certainly there isn't a dedicated FOSS tool for make PDFs; Libre Office and Inkscape do a decent job. But they're not dedicated PDF makers and the real problem is building fillable forms and signatures.

But there is a proprietary alternative called Master PDF that is a dedicated and supports all the PDF standard features I believe; one perpetual license is $80 compared to Adobe subscription based charging. I'm not aware of other options myself but they may exist. But it's a viable alternative to the "adobe tax".

Also of course if you have Office 365 from Microsoft, you can use Word to export docs to PDF reliably (in my experience). Obviously as far as you can get from FOSS, but it is an option on Linux via web browser if you have it from work for example; at least you don't have to pay Adobe but it's scraping the bottom of the barrel for this threat I know!

[–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 1 points 29 minutes ago

There are a few other PDF editors that are cheaper, but they don’t have the same features. PDF seems like something that has outlived its purpose. There has to be other document formats that provide a similar or better experience and prevents alteration.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 1 points 33 minutes ago

it won’t look the way you expect it to when someone opens it up in Adobe which their company definitely has.

That sounds like a problem between them and Adobe tbh

[–] Corno@lemm.ee 1 points 24 minutes ago* (last edited 20 minutes ago)

So happy to see my beloved Paint Tool Sai on here! 😃 Really good list. Didn't know there were so many alternatives

[–] skooma_king@lemm.ee 1 points 51 minutes ago

Are there any good alternatives as far as PDF creation goes? Creating fillable forms, not just editing? I have some users I can’t shake from Acrobat Pro.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 1 points 51 minutes ago

Why isn't Okular on the list? Way better PDF reader than Acrobat.

[–] Baguette@lemm.ee 5 points 2 hours ago

Neat list, but imo photoshop is closer to being called a photomanipulation/image editor than photography. lightroom is the more dedicated photography software.

Also I wouldn't call paint.net an alternative to photoshop. I love paint.net but its a relatively simple image editor and its functionally limited even with plugins.

[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

No open source Flash alternatives? Disappointing.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

It's called HTML5.

[–] myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

"An" (Animate) is the continuation of flash, is it not?

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Draw from LO is pretty meh for a lot of things, but I use it a lot to edit pdfs, and it is very consistent

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I have no idea what any of those things really does and it's way too much to learn given how much GIMP and Krita do

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Krita is not just good, I think the meta points it as the best drawing software in the market*

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 27 points 5 hours ago

Davinci Resolve has to be one of the most jam packed free software packages available… seriously, it absolutely trounces Premiere at evvvverything

the model of free for everything except if features you’d want for producing a professional movie, and financed by hardware sales - that you don’t need unless you’re a professional - is absolutely incredible for home users

[–] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 16 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Just started using reaper, coming over from audition and it's so similar I didn't have to re-learn anything.

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

REAPER rules. I started on ProTools in 2010. Ditched it for Reaper in 2012 and never looked back. Best $60 I ever spent. I've gladly bought multiple licenses for my devices over the years.

[–] jake@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

REAPER is absolutely one of the best pieces of software out there. I've been using it too since maybe 2009, though not so much in the last few years (not moved to an alternative, I'm just not doing so much audio these days).

I love the business model, the development cycle, etc. and even though it's not open source it kinda has a similar community feeling. Every bit as feature-filled and capable as any of the industry standards.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

I don't know what those two letters mean. I wish they had written out the name. I've avoided buying Adobe stuff because it's stupidly expensive, but I'm still aware that in some industries, some of these have been industry standards at one point or another. Being able to tell wtf their names are, or even what they do would be helpful.

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

Just a small thing, but as of the latest release Inkscape has a functioning live-trace tool

It was one of the biggest things keeping me using illustrator but I used inkscape's trace yesterday and it worked great

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I've never used vector programs. What is a "live tracer"?

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It's a tool that helps 'trace' a raster image into vector shapes and paths

it's useful for creating vector artwork from raster images - sometimes a logo or icon is only available in a poor resolution raster image, and so having an easy way to convert it into vector saves a ton of time.

I used it yesterday to create an SVG file for CNC plotting of a company logo. It would have taken me a few hours to hand-trace it myself

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[–] tux0r@feddit.org 79 points 7 hours ago (19 children)

Honestly, GIMP is not a good alternative to Photoshop. I know, "it's free" is enough for many people, but it ... just isn't.

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It is an alternative if you are a casual user.

[–] tux0r@feddit.org 1 points 42 minutes ago
[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 45 points 7 hours ago (8 children)

With GIMP 3.0 it's a bit better at least, they've finally added non-destructive editing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfaq-Cm1ZkA

Full changelog here:
https://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-3.0.html

I'd dare say that unless you've already learnt Photoshop (and have to unlearn it) then Darktable+GIMP works fine for home photo editing.
If you're used to Photoshop and your skills with it is what puts bread on the table... then I completely understand not switching tools.

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[–] oce@jlai.lu 44 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

For PDF "your browser" should be the default recommendation. Firefox allows to add text and images now. Gimp can also be used to edit PDF.

[–] Novocirab@feddit.org 24 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Browser is nice. On Linux though, Okular is superb (except for its occasional problems with forms).

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 20 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I'm really disappointed not to see Okular there. It's FOSS, and it's very cozy and useful.

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[–] phantomwise@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 hour ago

I have no clue what most of these abbreviations refer to 😅

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