How will they be able tackle the play integrity checks and all those things?
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I remember my original Moto G. It was a good phone for the time. I will follow Graphene wherever they go until a Linux phone is ready.
Hello Moto!
This is crazy big news.
Very interesting, I'll keep an eye on Motorola phones. Not that I need a new one anytime soon, but still that's the kind of thing that could be refreshing to read news about.
W Moto ❤️🩹
Let's see if it gets released before GrapheneOS and unlockable bootloader get outlawed
That's the point, right? Google is trying to lock down Android even more, and third party vendors can see the increasing risk. If they fork now, they can maybe undercut the increasing monopoly efforts.
I am sure they are also seeing a growing demand for more privacy, the only reason own a pixel is because of GrapheneOS. If I could buy a phone with the OS pre installed I would, don't know if they are going to do that. Also, by patterning with GrapheneOS they don't has the development cost and they can trade on Graphenes name
OEM, they can lock the bootloader. So at least there's that
What's the likelihood that Motorola will eventually lock down GrapheneOS though? Imho it'd be a bad move if they did. The FOSS mobile OS community has matured to the point that we don't need to rely on for-profit monoliths any more. Motorola would be smart to lead the way to where the mobile device economy will be.
matured to the point that we don't need to rely on for-profit monoliths any more
Which phones are we using for Graphene OS at the moment? Ah, yeah… Google… well known for its non-profit behaviour… I say: Give me alternatives which we aren't to try to get rid of in the first place.
Jesus dude let them get compatibility before you bring out the assumptions.
I always thought Pixel was the platform to have for fucking around with the OS and stuff. Of fucking course I was an idiot.
Don't be too hard on yourself, they definitely put money and effort into influencing opinions in all the subversive ways they can manage. But also, let this be a lesson to always check alternatives and their reason for existing. I consider it part of best practices.
"Embrace, Extend, Extinguish". When have they ever done otherwise.
Point of order: That was Microsoft rather than Google.
Yeah, I'm aware that Microsoft coined that phrase, but Google seems to be doing something quite similar.
Google embraced the creation of an open-sourced Android project, extended its capabilities with centralized software distribution, and is now extinguishing by forcing developers to comply with its new requirements and banning third-party app stores.
My biggest concern is the life cycle of the device. I almost went with Motorola for my last phone, but saw that you were lucky to get 3 years of OS updates. Is that likely to be better on GrapheneOS? If so, that is a huge win imo. If not, it still isn't ideal because I don't want to have to buy a new phone every 2 years...
Thats the trick, when a company supports romming, you can extend the support for however long you want!
GrapheneOS was claiming 5-year support IIRC. Apple level support is infeasible. Not sure how affordable longer firmware support from Qualcomm is.
Well, fuck. I really hoped they would pick FairPhone. Motorola is... Okay. I guess they made the Nexus 5 ; which was one of the best phones ever.
I hope they make a SMALL one, I am so tired of this GIGANTIC pixel 9.
Fairphone isn’t available everywhere while Motorola is. It’s pretty easy to understand why they chose them.
That's not the reason, the real reason is Fairphone doesn't take security seriously. The GrapheneOS devs have called them out numerous times on that.