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As Gulf states continue to face Iranian fire, Bloomberg reports they are urging the president to seek an 'off ramp' from the war while asking allies to bolster air defenses and drone interception, including MAMBA systems now scarce due to shipments to Ukraine

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I guess even the world's deadliest war machine has something to lose when run by a demented man baby and his sycophants.

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Something to lose? Maybe. Patriot missiles to sell? Definitely.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Led by the nose by a warmongerer from Israel

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago

They all are; Trump's incompetence (and incontinence) is what makes him unique.

[–] Cherry@piefed.social 18 points 2 weeks ago

Is there a countdown somewhere. I don’t like hurt and consequences should not be borne by quatar and UAE but damn the Schadenfreude is spiking here.

I feel really evil as a person.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Ah man.

I kind of don't like Qatar.

But the scale of the conflict does need to end. US Congress has yet to pass a war powers resolution and the only faction in Iran willing to work with us right now is the Shah faction.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

But the frackers in the US and oil sand boilers in Canada are warming up their wells already. This has to last another couple months to make it worth it!

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I sense the sarcasm but onlookers should understand that this is not how the global oil market works. GCC is essential to maintain global demand and intersectional interests of many countries.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait, do supply interruptions not increase the price of oil?

It’s my understanding that when oil barrels reach a certain threshold (below $80 a barrel at one point), more expensive extraction methods can be unprofitable.

Canadian oil sands were supposedly at risk of jeopardization by an influx of cheaper crude from Venezuela (if that ever happens).

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure this will benefit oil producers in the west writ large, and I’m not sure of the capacity of any refineries in North America to process Venezuelan crude, but Canada will not be able to offset losses in global oil production, so the cost of petroleum will increase regardless.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, that was my original point, that these shirt wars are profitable for oil producers who compete with the Middle East. It’s bad for pretty much everyone else though, for sure.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 2 weeks ago

The time to increase supply was before, now is the time to be selling it off at high prices.

[–] Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 0 points 2 weeks ago

"Permission denied"

  • Netanyahu
[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The likely ultimate outcome here, unfortunately, is that Ukraine is going to be left high and dry.

[–] perestroika@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Most likely, unfortunately yes.

There is one "if" however. There is a production line of Patriot missiles in Germany, and I hope the German government is refusing export permits to anywhere but Ukraine.

[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Potentially fake news. Depends if you trust Qatar and the UAE on the matter. I cannot find the original Bloomberg article. I guess we will find out in a few days if they have enough missiles.

Qatar disagrees with Bloomberg and calls them irresponsible.

https://imo.gov.qa/media-centre/press-releases/statement-from-the-international-media-office-of-the-state-of-qatar-in-response-to-an-article-published-by-bloomberg

Contrary to reporting by Bloomberg on Monday evening, the inventory of Patriot interceptor missiles held by the Qatar Armed Forces has not been depleted and remains well-stocked.

The Qatar Armed Forces have repeatedly demonstrated their capability to defend the nation against external threats and remain at full readiness to protect all citizens, residents, and visitors for as long as necessary.

Publishing such false information without verification from official sources is deeply irresponsible, especially during this fast-moving and highly sensitive period in the region.

Same with the UAE.

https://saudigazette.com.sa/article/659390/world/uae-qatar-reject-bloomberg-claims-on-air-defense-and-missile-stockpiles

In a statement, the UAE Ministry of Foreign Affairs said it “categorically rejects” the assertions, calling them unfounded and a misrepresentation of the country’s preparedness, technological sophistication and operational readiness.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

🤷

The first casuality of war is the truth.

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I find it hilarious all these Islamic states depended on USA for protection and we bailed on them for Israel as soon as shit got heated. Dumb asses.

[–] aquovie@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe they should ask Kuwait for some? They apparently have enough extra to shoot at US jets.