not without putting American warships in the line of fire
Did anyone check the definition of a "war" before starting one?
this post was submitted on 04 Mar 2026
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Great, so we can add a "strait of hormuz incident" to the bay of pigs, gulf of tonkin, and other body-of-water-based US military disasters
But the war's already started, what does Iran have to lose?
Let's dump the Trump admin in the Hormuz strait
Does Phalanx work for a convoy or just the ship on which it is deployed?
I guess we will also learn how well it works against cheap drones.
I don’t think any of that works well against artillery shells, and oil tankers are not well armoured.
It works when it's in range. And it'll only occasionally spray allied ships because the Phalanx doesn't check whats behind the target.
gee whiz CIWIS
An American destroyer has a large number of area defence interceptor missiles, not just the CIWS. The question is, will the interceptors be completely effective if Iran is able to launch a saturation attack on them, and will they have enough interceptors left by the time they get out of the shooting gallery. Personally, I think even they aren't stupid enough to try it, but I hope I'm proven wrong.
Phalanx is self defense only. The weapons used to protect nearby ships are ESSM and SM-2 missiles. Which should to work fine to intercept cheap drone, artillery and ballistic missiles. (Tho very expressive to intercept artillery with missiles)
The navy has used those systems recently to defend ships during the Houti crisis in the red sea.
Huh. I was expecting the strategy to be bombing the sites that would launch attacks on shipping, not to actually escort and try to defend the ships.
That strategy failed miserably against the Houthis.
Well see there is the whole issue of Missile Trucks.
Where are they? How many are there? Where are they headed? Which ones are decoys? Where will they deploy to fire?
Especially after the US torpedoed the Iris Dena? Fun times.
There seriously is not enough alcohol for this administration.
Not with Patel and Kegsbreath chugging it.
Sweet, let’s watch some navy ships go down.
Not that , just let trump go down in his titan sub .
How much of our air defensive stockpile do you think our russia backed regime can expend protecting the wealth of the royal house of saud?
All of it in a matter of a week or two, easily.
Other than Israel responding by glassing all of Iran, what's to stop Iran from waiting until the wind is blowing the right way and launching a dirty missile at Israel? If it gets intercepted it still spews nuclear material over the country right?
There is nothing to stop this from escalating, I don't think abrupt, nonsensical nuclear war is off the table for the US or Israel and I don't think the centrists of the world are ready for that (which terrifyingly, is really one of the few "gotchas" Trump and Netanyahu have left to flip the script, all the other non-existent international norms people believed in are already destroyed, nuclear weapons are the only one left.).
We have never been closer to nuclear war in my lifetime and it is almost entirely the fault of the US and Israel.
Let me ask you a question, if every accusation is an admission, what is Trump loudly admitting he is about to do?
This conflict leads directly to the use of "tactical" nuclear weapons because this is the first bullshit war in a long time in US history where the existentiality necessity of using nuclear weapons can be invoked without the immediate fear of nuclear retaliation as a consequence, at least according to how the leadership of the US and Israel see it.
There are not many off ramps left here...
Iran could easily end up doing that if things keep escalating, but I think what the US and Israel do will be far more catastrophic for everybody.
It’s certainly not alarmist to talk about nuclear war with a US president who wanted to nuke a hurricane.
4D Chess irl.
US warships have already been hit. There is massive censorship in place.