still never buying one. There are much better EVs on the market that cost less and look nicer. The tesla has always looked silly. Like what a teenage boy would think is "cyber punk".
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Do they really think this will be "the golden move" to save Tesla? It's still Musk's company. The brand is toxic forever.
If he isn't forced to leave the board and divest all stock, Tesla is still dead.
Hell, even then...
Let it be very, very clear that the board had no problem with Musk's sieg heils. They only care because they've lost a massive chunk of their stock value. Don't support nazis. Don't support Tesla even if Musk has been completely removed.
Elon needs to be removed from the board and all his stock returned to the company. Only then can they start looking at cleaning up their brand.
his whole board needs to be replaced, that is not handpicked by musk.
Should probably even rebrand at that point
Yeah no shit, get Nikola's name off that shit. Call it Edison Motors or something :)
naw, they'll rename it T and buy out T.com
They'll name it Xcars and the only way to buy them is through twitter dming grok.
"Alright let's go, everyone in the T-mobile!"
Musk, with his DOGE, has even abolished the federal department responsible for ensuring that all cars coming to market follow compliant minimum safety regulations. Purely intentional so Musk can market his cars without any oversight. Safe or not. And dare you complain about that: Musk has an army of lawyers who will immediately take any negative publicity or negative comments from users to court. Need proof? https://apnews.com/article/tesla-china-musk-investigation-takeaways-422af6d3c6e7cc88173d12891e8c0a9a
I wouldn't be surprised if DOGE nationalizes Tesla and puts it under Musk's command. Gotta have Cyber Tanks for the regime, right?
"Please put down your weapon. You now have 15 seconds to comply."
Robocop's corporate dystopian nightmare is closer and closer to reality.
It's been here. RoboCop was satirizing all that same crap that was happening back then, as well.
Elon Musk would still own an enormous portion of Tesla, so if you want Elon to be punished you should never forgive Tesla for enabling Musk
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There was a day, not too long ago, where I’d seriously considered buying a Tesla. And I nearly did.
As of today, I for one will never buy a single Tesla product - not a car, not a truck, not a battery, not a robot, whatever - for as long as I live.
And no decision from Tesla leadership will change my mind at this point. Fuck them.
Even if that makes me a crazy old man 30-40 years from now when all this is in the past. Never means never.
I would have 100% bought a Tesla. I just bought a Hyundai Ioniq 6 instead.
There aren't many EV sedans under $60k.
Maybe I'll consider a Tesla in another ten years if Elon has divested his stock.
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The American consumer is a fucking idiot, this has a high chance of success as people forget about Elon and go back to buying them.
I mean, in fairness, do we have any qualms with the rest of the company? Elon was directly responsible for pretty much all of the cyber truck decisions. But the regular Tesla's, aside from Elon prohibiting lidar and making false claims about self driving, are pretty decent. Without him, lidar might get implemented, the cyber truck will probably be scrapped, and real engineers will have their voices heard again.
Isn't that kind of what we want from a company? To realize their errors and remove the cancerous parts?
do we have any qualms with the rest of the company
Let's say they can him. Let's say he is somehow compelled to sell off stock until he's a minitority shareholder. His ego would not let that go. To say he's still filthy fucking rich would do a disservice to filth. You can't separate him from this mess. He'd just come back.
If he just disappeared tomorrow, no chance of repurchasing it, just maybe but we need to see:
- Unions everywhere
- OSHA up their ass
- Put some fucking LiDAR on the cars
- Reinvent quality control
- Reinvent a safety program so that people can't burn to death locked in their car.
- Fully support individual resale.
- Fully support 3rd party service centers.
- Every car is modified until it gets at least a three-star crash rating
- All features are purchased with the car, if your seat has a heater, you can use it for free.
- One feature is "we don't sell" or "store your data in a way that can identify you"
- Car updates are transparent and unless a true safety hazard, optional.
- No more of this screwing around with odometers to speed past warranty availability and everyone gets 30k more miles and another year because they were assholes.
He will still have a shitload of shares. I don't need to get into the nitty-gritty detail of whether I hate the company or its products; his stock in it is what allowed him to buy the election for Trump, so fuck Tesla.
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Why do you want a redemption arc for this overvalued company so bad? You holding a bag?
not OP, I wouldn't mind a redemption arc, they were pretty f'ing cool before he got there.
Everything that was on the market before tesla was a facimilie of a thousand other cars before it. They did something (for better or worse) different. Learning what not to do has power in itself.
After they took the leap, all of a sudden a lot of other companies started throwing out prototypes. I don't think the Volt I drive today would have happened if they didn't go there first.
Of course things got a lot worse as Elon butted in further and they started pushing QC out and cybertruck BS in.
I think they're likely irredeemable, but I'd like to see another company follow in their footsteps and keep pushing the tech further, not in a garbage dumpster direction, but in a simpler and more effective direction.
Everything that was on the market before tesla was a facimilie of a thousand other cars before it.
Dude, every one of their generic sedan looking business fleet cars look so bleh that they make a mid-90s Dodge Neon look like mind-blowing body design.
The only thing they've produced in the last ten years that's even markedly different from the competition is the cybertruck, and that's only different in a bad way.
The "innovations" they brought to market are almost all shit I would never need nor want save the EV part of it. I cannot imagine ever wanting to drive a thing in which much of the control and all of the gauges are on a permanently mounted, great value iPad.
They are saying the resale value on these things is going through the floor, and honestly that's good because that's what they are worth.
Not talking about the body shape I could give a s*** less about that, matter of fact as places bring out different body shapes it kind of irrationally pisses me off. I'm talking about the design of the suspension and what they did with 360 camera coverage, how they handled the dual motors, The headlight emitters are actually multiple LED arrays and they can spell out shit in the headlights if they want to. All that crap was new and different. The only thing They really introduced that everyone else followed on and I hate is putting every blessed thing on a touch screen in the middle of the car.
I didn't know the headlight thing was one of their innovations. Yet another thing I can blame them for because driving in front of one of them at night is like a mild form of torture.
I honestly don't want innovation at all in my car personally. If Honda could make another edition of the electric Fit I would buy it immediately and drive it until it collapsed into dust.
another edition of the electric Fit
Chevy's Bolt isn't too over the top
If you really want to get back to basics, this looks promising
https://www.theverge.com/electric-cars/655527/slate-electric-truck-price-paint-radio-bezos
Yeah I have a hang-up on Chevy because I owned two Cavaliers and they were terrible.
I have thought about it though, the Chevy Bolts look pretty similar to a Fit.
I'm was also considering going with one of the Hyundais if Honda can't get their act together.
I also don't think I want a truck.
Yeah I had a cavalier in the '90s Best I can say about it is it "usually" worked. They were off a little cars built to a price.
One of my neighbors has a Hyundai Ionic and loves it to death.
I can handle getting a truck but I've got too much family to shove into a 2 and 1/2 seater. I am however excited for the complete lack of tracking my ass and price point. If that company can build a 1992 Ford ranger equivalent for $20,000, They can build a shitty cavalier for $20,000 and we can start having competitive electric car pricing.
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