There is no incentive for US companies to improve their products when they are protected from market forces by import restrictions.
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What US companies? Only three remain (GM, Ford, Tesla) and they make up a fraction of sales here in the US. The Chinese government is dumping truckloads of money into subsidies and development, control nearly all rare earth minerals, and don't shy away from environmental disasters and human rights abuses which is why they're the only nation on the planet that's able to develop this rapidly and sell their vehicles for way less than anyone else on the planet. Once they control everything you can kiss those low prices and rapid development goodbye, but you'll still buy from them because nobody else will be left standing.
If all that is true, then the US should subsidize US ev’s to the point where they are price competitive and open the market to competition where US manufacturers can market against the environmental and human right issues with their Chinese competitors. That would put competitive pressure on Chinese manufacturers to clean up their supply chains and consumers worldwide would benefit.
The US is battling the environmental and human rights issues that so agitate them about China by promoting 'clean coal' and rounding up brown people in concentration camps without due process.
It's almost as if environmental and human rights issues weren't their real concern 🤔.
Right there on the top of Mount should. But we've seen the self destructive nature of my country and elected leaders.
A loss of overall competitiveness of the local companies is actually a well known and studied problem with using tariffs and import restrictions to protects said local companies.
So any competent government which desires for their local companies to survive and prosper will seek different ways to strengthen then which don't suffer from that problem. The Chinese government is doing just that, the US government is not.
By all indications, US politicians are spectacularly incompetent and/or are following a strategy of burning the future of US companies for a short term boost in the money they yield for current CxOs and investors.
They're fully in thrall to market forces. Those forces simply dictate that they lobby for protected markets. It's far cheaper to buy off a lobbyist than to build a cutting edge battery factory
"Burning the future of the company for extra personal upsides in the short term" is pretty much MBA-Age management strategy summarized in one sentence.
I bet they actually have incentives to create better technology.
chinese companies are often run by engineers not management consultants, lawyers and accountants.
They also pour money into many hands. Usually their industries are pretty competitive internally. they have more EV car makers than I can remember
China has also implemented the world’s most stringent standards for battery safety. They require automakers to ensure that batteries don't catch fire or explode for at least two hours after a single cell enters thermal runaway. If it does go ablaze, Chinese automakers are experimenting with some unusual ways of protecting the car and occupants from the battery fire.
I like it way more than charging speeds. But also - I'm interested in how many recharge cycles they supposedly can live through, and that's not in the article.
The battery life and the cost to replace it is the one million dollars question nobody can answer (yet?) ..I assume that this is why byd cars are cheap giving the amount of technology they ship in the cars..once we have the risk of having to pay loads of money to replace a battery gone or the actual cost to do it, we should see the prices normalized (without the risk discount)
Meanwhile ford wants to charge you a monthly fee for the luxury of opening the trunk n you e-mustang
I can't find any information on this. Can you tell me where you read this so I can get more info? I do see they're charging $495 for the plastic tub in the frunk now.
😆 what a joke
the new 1,500 kilowatt (1.5 megawatt) Flash charging stations
Must be nice. In Spain the charging infrastructure looks like it's literally designed to torture EV owners.
Energy density or GTFO.
I'm tired of articles that purposefully skip the actually important data
Charge time sounds great, but what about the number of charge cycles (I.e. longevity), the article did not mention that.
They don't mention it, but I highly suspect its actually not significant.
I used to think fast charging did the same thing, but it turns out that even the heaviest wattage implementations have negligible effects on cycles and health.
As long as your driver is smart enough to control or manipulate the voltage at certain capacities (<15% and >85%), the higher power won't affect the cell quality.
You are correct. This is for phones, where it is worse than for EVs, but:
[...] only around three minutes slower than it charges in normal temperatures.
No. The cold tests starts at 20% and the normal test at 10%. My guess is that charging from 10-20% at -30 C takes a lot longer. Still a good battery, but they're fudging the numbers here.
True, but I don't need to charge at -30C, and this thing charges FAST.
can charge from 10-70% in just about five minutes
Why is that always a metric? Yeah, with a tiny battery or a kilowatt line maybe.
More important is the cycle count.
~~Edit: btw, why don't charging stations have a supercapacitor?~~
Because the power charging curve is non linear. You have to charge the battery slowly when it's almost depleted or full. So they only post the numbers that make them sound best.
Got it. Thanks!
Cycle count is important for the lifetime estimate on the battery, how long before you have to spend a large portion of the cost of the car on replacing / refurbishing a key component.
"Fill up" time is the most obvious and common 'maintenance' anyone will ever do on their vehicle. One of the biggest objections large swaths of the population have about EVs is/was that could take an hour or more for each stop on a long road trip or if you can't charge at home. (apartment / street parking / etc.) They usually do 10-70%r 80 or whatever because the speed trails off exponentially closer to 100%. (logarithmically? whichever.)