This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
All posts should follow this basic structure:
Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.
Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.
YPTB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.
Some acronyms you might see.
Relevant comms
Checked my notifications to see this, I'm not even active in those communities.
The reason says ' Piefed Troll ' I'm not sure what that could be?
Can someone help me figure out why I was banned? I wasn't very active in the last week I can't imagine why I'd be banned, especially from these communities.
Seems that a few people are getting banned for "random" reasons.
(Looking at ban reasons and their posts from the same time I suspect it's all because they criticised AI lmao)
https://lemmy.zip/modlog/747138
etc
Seems you got banned for your post "I searched CachyOS vs Fedora on YouTube and all I found was AI Slop 🙄"
PTB 100%
can confirm, i & a few other users got comments removed & banned from some communities for talking about how to spot genAI images etc
most of the people in question were slrpnk.net users, so it makes sense why we'd be against something that's so electricity- and water-hungry while providing very little of use (meanwhile i'm fine with locally-hosted analytical AI that's doing stuff like analysing scans for cancer, for example)
but weirdly, the bans all got labelled as stuff like "anti-AI neoliberal", even though neoliberals are totally fine with corporate-owned genAI being added needlessly to every service 🤷
It is interesting to me that the modlog doesn't show who did action. Is that normal? I would have expected to see who the moderator was that performed the mod action, but honestly haven't been involved with moderating a website in basically 15 years, so I don't know what the accepted norms are these days...
I think there are mobile apps that show it (pretty sure a thread here from a few days ago had a screenshot showing as much).
Message from Draconic who did the ban: "[The] ban was a mistake and will be removed."
I'm locking the post now because it's attracting a lot of trolls.
[Edited for clarity]
PTB. There have been some mods of the AI specific comms here on db0 that are more than a little ban happy, and who pre-emptively ban people for participating in anti-ai subs.
That said, we also have a number of users that have come to this sub to whine when they refuse to block the AI subs for themselves and just downvote everything from them.
There's a huge amount of Brigadoon related to AI content. People downvote and stalk the communities instead of just blocking them. I think the heavy handedness is justified, and I've even been on the wrong side of it (getting banned for posting in fuck AI).
I don't know why the autocorrect gave me that but I'm keeping it.
Welcome to the fediverse
Instead of one u/spez, we have several dozen mini spez here. Many instance owners will instance ban users just for one comment where you forget or don’t want to place an /s after your comment.
Many of these people are young, inexperienced and have therefore no true insight in the power they wield, not of the consequences this type of behaviour has on the overall success chances of a platform that struggles to get 6 digit monthly active users.
But the most interesting part of this is that these type of comments/ criticisms are downvoted by an army of users who apparently don’t mind totalitarianism in a digital space.
But the most interesting part of this is that these type of comments/ criticisms are downvoted by an army of users who apparently don’t mind totalitarianism in a digital space.
I feel that's a bit much. If you feel like you got banned and silenced, nothing stops you from:
Mods can be weird, but it's not totalitarianism. The term uses to describe Hitler and Stalin isn't when you get a comment removed on the internet. Unless you're terminally online and think your comment removed on a niche internet forum is on par with the SS bursting into your home on suspicion that you're Jewish.
I would like to point out that the troll accounts being made to spam Draconic's name, especially after banning someone, is probably part of the reason why moderation is strict.
Draconic in the last month has had several users mass harass them, for either not supporting Israel or saying they don't mind what users do on their private computers.
You could ask Draconic_NEO directly. No idea how that will go but the good news is that if you don't participate in those communities, there's really no impact on your use of the site.
I think the mod might have jumped the gun a bit too fast on that. But I don't know the full story nor am I in the mood to go digging.
Some communities on Lemmy don't want any pushback, any at all.
You can get banned for making benign comments on uncontroversial topics if the mod is in such a mood. That's Lemmy.
Atleast on Lemmy/PieFed we have communities like this we can call them out in, or use/create alternative communities on the same topic etc.
Lemmy is small. Like, it generally doesn't matter if you get banned from some niche community. But when there so so few communities to begin with, mostly there are no alternative spaces.
I think that's perfectly fine. It's their community, they can do whatever they like with it.
I do think however that there should be an honest ban reason in the log to make it clear.
dbzer0 is a pro-AI instance (not corporate AI like ChatGPT or Grok), maybe that's why?
I'm not against AI, I use it a lot and it is useful, you just need to know what to use it for and to not trust it with anything serious.
But it's not all positive AI is bad in many ways for me the privacy risks are huge and something people should worry about.
Wild to ban me for saying something bad about AI
This was a mod-ban btw, so you seem to have annoyed the mod who's moderating all those comms.
Would like to at least know what I did to annoy them this much.
Look's who's the common mod, and ping them?
It's @draconic_neo@lemmy.dbzer0.com .
Care to help understand why I was banned from all those communities?
Generally they don't ban for anti-ai sentiment, unless you're going to the AI comms and being a dick or downvoting everything in them instead of just blocking them.
My account is on the instance and I'm semi active in a few specifically anti-ai comms, and I've never had any problems.
Banning people for posts they make in an entirely different community should be wrong. But sadly there’s no good way to enforce that.