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Obviously due to recent events [both epstein files and iran war], posts discussing why Americans haven't been more active in trying to stop all of this have been recirculating

I'm going to offer an alternative explanation given what I've seen both personally psychologically and also what makes sense. I dislike answers which are just "they're stupid lol," they're uncreative and unexplanatory.

There's this phenomenon teens can go through, which I went through, where instead of fighting back they essentially shut down into survival mode. With normal parents, or those teens perceive as normal parents, they will have a tendency to rebel, slam their doors, etc. They'll be angry and make it known, because they want the parent to change whatever is upsetting them [I know portraying the state as a parent is a common right wing point, that's not my intention in this case].

However, with emotionally abusive or negligent parents, teens will do something else. They'll essentially not do anything besides the bare minimum. As long as they aren't being actively beaten, they'll just go through their day and not interact with their parents more than they have to. They won't cry or scream or demand xyz, they simply live. It looks obedient, but they're actually just trying to keep their head down because they know that fighting back makes things worse.

So my hypothesis is that Americans are in this sort of state. I've seen a lot of people in my life like this. They don't go out and protest or try to make things change because they think nothing can or nothing will. So they stick their head down and try to live their day to day life.

I feel it makes some sense. Besides the mobilization in Minnesota, the protests against the double murders of Alex Pretti and Renee Good didn't have the numbers or intensity of the George Floyd protests in 2020. Why? It's not like Americans have better material conditions now then they did in 2020 [Besides covid, but I'm unsure if that would make it much worse than today]. So why the change? My two explanations are that the democratic party (who had a large hand in the George Floyd protests, to my knowledge) no longer works as a mobilization force as it did before, both because the leadership doesn't want to and because people have lost faith in them, and also my "survival mode" explanation above

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[–] Ronin_5@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 5 days ago

Americans will fight if they have their livelihoods threatened.

Another war in the Middle East does not threaten their livelihoods, because they are not conscious of the imperial boomerang.

George Floyd’s execution was just the straw that broke the camel’s back, against the decades of systemic injustice the black community has suffered. Further policing threatened the livelihoods of the black community, so it was the black community that mostly fought back.

Alex Pretti / Rene Good was a sign of the threat the Minnesotan community faced. And so it was them who mostly fought back.

Without a vanguard, the proletariat cannot preemptively mobilize against reaction.

[–] comrade_yeehaw@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 5 days ago

It makes sense: additionally, I think that there's a level of paralysis for left- liberal Americans, especially those that took part in the mid 20th century progressive protests like the chicano movement, who had faith in institutions like the Democratic party to give a level of progressive reform at home and fight against the frothing at the mouth rightists that populate the gop now (even if those reforms never seemed to materialise outwith the imperial core, and even as fascists populated electorates in the US). The kayfabe of institutional opposition is collapsing in front of their eyes, and as their worldview implodes they either fall into a deep despair, or dig their heels in in an obstinate rejection of the reality in front of them. They want to believe they can still vote this out and go back to sleep, and many will hold that view until all avenues for reform have broken down

[–] HaSch@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 4 days ago

The atrophy of the American public mirrors the ossification of its administrative state. As the EPA, the CDC, the USPS, and other institutions representing bourgeois concessions to the proletariat are systematically eroded, the American working class has no longer any means to realise its own interests through administrative means, and it loses the ability to meaningfully shape its environment. The space of potential futures within the system is considerably narrowed, and the narrower it becomes, the less people find a future in it worth fighting for by legal means. Expect protests to die down, and instead more assassins and armed groups to emerge.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 8 points 5 days ago

Another thing to keep in mind is people in the US are really goddamn tired. Everyone is worked to the bone here. Especially folks working hourly don't have time to get sick or take care of their kids let alone go to protests or attend meetings. We are all living on the edge.

Then you layer on to this the surveillance state and mass incarceration. If you do something to piss off the government who takes care of your kids? Society is atomized it's not like your family is around, and even if they are, they don't have the time or resources to help you.

So best to lay low and hope someone else moves first