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[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 146 points 1 week ago (6 children)

The US government can not be trusted. The UK government can not be trusted. The Iranian government can not be trusted. The Israeli government can not be trusted.

I think I am starting to see a pattern.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago

No war but a class war.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Countries whose names start with vowels can't be trusted?

[–] catbum@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Austrians right about now

hehe

Heck, Australians too

And maybe the aliens ^idk^

Yeah, our government's tonguing the Netanyahu-owned Orange Anus, too.

[–] Yliaster@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Given they banned Palestine action/slogans (18-year old girl jailed for 2 years for wearing a shirt saying "from the river to the sea").

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Is there any government that can be trusted? I feel like no matter what system or ideology is used, a society is always going to end up with a weird ruling class that's corrupt, power hungry, and is fond of using authoritarian tactics.

[–] nforminvasion@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Mother anarchy loves her children

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[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

No current country deserves humanity, perhaps some future government will.

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[–] KiwiTB@lemmy.world 99 points 1 week ago (3 children)

What a surprise.... No one could have seen this coming.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I may be naive, but I honestly didn't think UK would allow this, when Starmer clearly stated the war on Iran is illegal. Especially not after USA has been caught in several war crimes.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Didn't he literally say he'd allow their use for "defensive" strikes? He's never really been hiding it.

[–] Trex202@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Every strike is a defensive strike

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

How is a bunker buster on a bomber defensive?
Defensive is to scramble planes to shoot down missiles. An attack is not defensive in my book.

Edit: A word.

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah but that's because you're using logic, reasoning, and commonly understood meanings of words. In Kid Starver's authoritarian mind none of those things matter.

The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. His heart sank as he thought of the enormous power arrayed against him, the ease with which any Party intellectual would overthrow him in debate, the subtle arguments which he would not be able to understand, much less answer. And yet he was in the right! They were wrong and he was right. The obvious, the silly, and the true had got to be defended. Truisms are true, hold on to that! The solid world exists, its laws do not change. Stones are hard, water is wet, objects unsupported fall towards the earth's centre.

  • 1984, George Orwell
[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Absolutely, the idea that "preemptive" strikes are defensive is Orwellian.
Also how does UK know what target they will hit? Will it be a kindergarten killing innocent children? Will it be a refinery constituting chemical warfare on civilians? There is no plausible reason to believe these strikes are purely defensive.

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[–] MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

IMO defensive would involve them not leaving the USA.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Yes, that's a good way to define it.

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[–] architect@thelemmy.club 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yall are naive as shit. The fucking pedophiles are against their buddy pedophiles they’ve been fucking kids with? Do you really believe that shit?

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[–] Shameless@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Starmer the flim flam man. He stands for nothing and will go with anything, he has no morals.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

I feel like we're slowly discovering that the UK is still in fact run by Tony Blair.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 81 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Goddam UK, didn't Starmer say he WOULDN'T allow this?
This is participation in war crimes!

[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

All the little pedos gotta stick to the script

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 21 points 1 week ago

It would be more out of character for Starmer to keep his word.

[–] Womble@piefed.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, after Iran started targeting the gulf states and Cypress the UK shifted its position to allowing the US to use the UK's bases for missions targeting Iran's long range strike capabilities but not anything else. This video is consistent with that.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It's funny how Ukraine has done that against Russia without ever using bomber planes and without even having bunker buster bombs.
So I maintain that it remains a no. USA does not need bombers to defend itself. In fact all it needed to not even have to defend itself, was to not wage an illegal war on Iran.
USA and Israel should not be aided in their illegal war in any way IMO.

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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 50 points 1 week ago (4 children)

So UK bases are just a valid military targets now lol

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[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Guys, I'm starting to think that the US is dropping bombs somewhere

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[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I thought the UK wasn’t going to be complicit in this illegal US/Israeli mass murder campaign?? I thought they denied access to their bases for this. Guess not.

[–] Bieren@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The planes are just transporting the bombs. The uk is fine with that. If they accidentally fall on a school in Iran it’s not their fault.

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[–] OldGrayDog@fedinsfw.app 20 points 1 week ago

Those are "defensive" bombs!

[–] mousefad@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago

Those must be them defensive bombs that only fall on people who are attacking you.

[–] Doom@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] tackleberry@thelemmy.club 13 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Imagine if all US miitary assets were targeted, globally

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[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 13 points 1 week ago

So they're just loading the bombers right by the fence where journalists can see? Probably an order from Trump to stir up things up because the UK said they couldn't launch attacks from the UK.

[–] FE80@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Poking around an ADSB tracking site will very quickly illustrate the flight path of the logistics chain to the middle east, as well as the European bases passed through along the way.

Fascists helping fascists.  The new Axis of evil. 

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

Herr Schtarmer

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But Britain says its not involved /s

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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Operation: grab em by the pussy is a go!

🫲🍊🫱

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Another Starmer lie?

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