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I mostly lurk here, and I know we've had this discussion come up a number of times since Discord's age verification changes were announced, but I figured this video offers value for the walkthrough and comparative analysis. Like me, the video authors aren't seasoned self-hosters, and I've still got a lot to learn. Stoat and Fluxer both look appealing to me for my needs, but Stoat seemingly needs self-hosted servers to route through their master server (unless I'm missing something stupid) and I replicated the 404 for Fluxer's self-hosting documentation seen in the video, so it's looking like I'm leaning toward a Matrix server of some kind. Hopefully everyone looking for the Discord exit ramp is closer to finding it after this video.

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

For those who are still getting their arrangements together to leave discord but are uncomfortable about running the client in the interim check out vesktop, an open source privacy-focused discord client that looks and feels like the official client without the same uncomfortable level of access to your user space.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Got a link that's not YouTube?

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't. And I don't know if they put their videos elsewhere.

[–] msokiovt@feddit.online 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can use an Invidious link, actually. I do this a lot.

For @quick_snail@feddit.nl as follows: https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=kpjcmXbmMVM

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

go-away says I'm a bot, and the page doesn't load

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hey on this note, I was looking to do discourse with the mumble plugin but I wanted to do this via docker compose. Has anyone gotten that to work or have a good source they can point me to since at least on the discorse mumble plugin I noticed that it stated that their install instructions were for the stock non-docker solution only.

[–] 2ncs@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

oh wow this is exactly what I was looking for but with mattermost. Gonna have to give this a try later and I'll see. What are you having trouble installing, the plug-in?

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Right now I'm just getting discourse to run via docker compose. I have that up and running finally and got to the splash screen locally but of course it needs a domain so I'm working on that route while my reverse proxy is throwing a fit.

I haven't gotten to the plugin yet but just reading up on the git documentation it sounded like running it in a docker compose isn't officially supported so I was just posting to see if maybe someone had has some experience and could offer up some pointers before I bang my head against a wall this weekend.

[–] sakuraba@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

As anyone checked out Sharkord? it looks like a nice option if you don't care about federation and just want a simple setup for your group, but it looks like it is vibe coded partially

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 115 points 2 days ago (15 children)

Seeing Teamspeak outlive Discord just keeps making me laugh.

[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"outlive" Discord is quite the exaggeration. Let's not pretend that we're not a vocal minority here, and that Discord will keep trucking just fine.

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[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 56 points 2 days ago

Teamspeak lived long enough to see an exodus from Discord, but that doesn't mean Discord is dying.

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[–] kieron115@startrek.website 30 points 2 days ago (5 children)

What I'm upset about is the absolute wealth of information that will be forever trapped behind Discord. What ever happened to good old fashioned forums? Hell, even a subreddit would at least have been scrapable. If there's a mass migration away from Discord then all that information just gets lost. Example that Lemmings might care about - CachyOS has a forum, but I've seen the vast majority of troubleshooting and user input made on their Discord channel.

[–] aquovie@lemmy.cafe 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Old fashioned forums are old fashioned. Circular logic but there's a lot holding them back.

  • Create a new account for every single niche forum? No thanks. We need a federated solution.
    • Lemmy/Piefed/etc is almost there
  • Antiquated restrictions (e.g. Log in to view images)
  • Antiquated UI - People want emojis, reactions, rich media, etc
  • PHP paid the bills once upon a time but now it's hard to get anyone excited to make big new features for forum software
[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You've got some points but I would argue that antiquated UI will be what saves the Internet. Keeping out bots and AI scrapers with good old fashioned phpBBS systems that have been around for twenty years will be our clean data as we build systems outside of AI and the techbro properties.

[–] other_cat@piefed.zip 6 points 1 day ago

I've also always liked how old school forums are structured. Nice, neat categories and most active/recent stuff on top.

[–] aquovie@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't see how web 1.0 style sites are resistant to AI or bots. It's kind of the opposite. Bots/AI are really good at pure text stuff.

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Because they block access without signing up.

[–] cdf12345@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How hard would it be to create an open source identity token that would allow user authentication on any forum or site that will accept it?

Something with a public/private encryption system to authenticate users without the content needing to be federated.

[–] aquovie@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 day ago

You might be thinking of the original OpenID system. Instead of the OAuth2 thing we have now with OIDC (e.g. "Login with Google"), OpenID Connect didn't require the site to be configured in advance with the auth provider. You just gave it your email address and off you went.

OIDC is generally superior security-wise but it's held back by each site to establish a relationship with the upstream site.

[–] other_cat@piefed.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Maybe some people will migrate things back out. I wound up moving a bunch of stuff to a self hosted wiki.

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What I’m upset about is the absolute wealth of information that will be forever trapped behind Discord. What ever happened to good old fashioned forums?

Rather than paying for hosting and operational costs that goes with a forum, social media and the desire for immediacy happened as Yahoo created Groups, then Facebook followed suit with their own.

[–] alexsantee@infosec.pub 2 points 11 hours ago

Thankfully these guys dumped many public Discord servers, privacy concerns aside, the information won't really be forever trapped

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

What I'm upset about is the absolute wealth of information that will be forever trapped behind Discord.

omg, you guys are almost there. you're so close, I can feel it.

so....why is the information locked behind a corporate entity?

almost got it

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Because a open sourced self hosted solution like discord hadn't been created yet.

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[–] Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

Fewer Letters More Letters
Git Popular version control system, primarily for code
IP Internet Protocol
NAS Network-Attached Storage
SSL Secure Sockets Layer, for transparent encryption
VPN Virtual Private Network
VPS Virtual Private Server (opposed to shared hosting)
XMPP Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol ('Jabber') for open instant messaging

7 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 14 acronyms.

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[–] Svinhufvud@sopuli.xyz 33 points 2 days ago (17 children)

I have tried XMPP, Matrix and now I've settled on Mumble.

Me and my fellows mostly just need a voice room or a couple to sit in, and Mumble does that best out of these three, in my opinion.

I recommend giving Mumble a try as it is super easy to set up and use. Users don't need to even create accounts to join servers.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

Mumble is fantastic.
I designed and implemented a very complex voice system for an old guild. Like 100 people, 8 groups of 15, group leader's private chat, priority speech all that. It worked so well, and never failed.
This was many many years ago, to be fair.
I wish it's positional audio was more supported.

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[–] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 40 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Fluxer is of particular interest to the folks here at AN. We've talked a bit about exploring it once they finish work on federation.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 2 points 1 day ago

hey that looks really interesting, thanks for sharing. will keep an eye on development for sure!

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[–] Laggindragon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've been getting by just fine with a combination of Telegram and Element.

[–] sakuraba@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

telegram is just as bad if you care about privacy

[–] Cloudstash@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Yes, i have no clue why people insists on using such shit platform when there are viable solutions easily accessible.

My hopes for the future is that people band together and share servers, perhaps in the form of unlimited federatee non-for profit orgs, or perhaps even a buch of smaller orgs under and umbrella org, just like for forball/sport clubs and so on.

We need to push out all large for profit companies that abuse their user bases.

[–] ComradePenguin@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I am so pissed that Element or any other Matrix app does not support push to talk OR a minimum noise gate. If it did it would clearly get tons of new users, it would be pretty much no question which plattform to replace discord with

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[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (15 children)

It comes down to Fluxer and Stoat. Or just Stoat if you dislike Fluxer's AI-assisted development.

One thing is clear, both are currently working great and are the closest thing to Discord's core features.

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