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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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-A few days ago, a moderator on Digital Art banned me for supposedly posting "furry" (anthropomorphic animal) art. My works are based on yokai characters (Japanese mythology), kemonomimi (humans with animal ears and tails), and beasts (normal and mythical animals). Nothing falls into the furry category, which is exclusively for anthropomorphic animals. And it should be clarified that I have been posting in that community for months without any warning or comment about my works. I tried to contact her through comments in another community she moderates (I barely use Lemmy to post, and I'm not going to download external apps to open chats just for this, plus I don't speak English), but she decided to delete them and not speak to me.

(I won't get into a discussion about this; if you don't believe me, just look up the terms mentioned. Labeling everything as furry simply because it has an animal percentage is pure ignorance, and I'm fed up with the topic because I've explained and shown it a thousand times to some stubborn people. Please don't try to convince me to use the word "furry" as something universal, because it's NOT, and I know what I draw and what I don't.)

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[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 hours ago

The powertripping is baked into the rules, which is rather common for small niche communities, and a poor fit for general, broad categories. Like... 'art'.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 7 points 5 hours ago

Very strange rules there.

Traditional art is allowed, and the community is called "digital art."

[–] MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip 17 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

This is essentially an argument over what "furry" means.

Obviously, your art means furry to the mod whether you like that or not. This you already knew though because the ban was the 7th action against you in that community.

You can't say you thought your work was still welcome there after 6 post removals in the previous 7 months. That's just disingenuous.

As for "I barely use Lemmy to post, and I’m not going to download external apps to open chats just for this, plus I don’t speak English", this is just bullshit. You put the effort in to learn how to post, and did it in English. This seems a pathetic attempt to bolster how innocent you are trying to seem.

It's their community to do with as they please. I can see why someone may consider your art furry and why you say it isn't. Regardless of that, it has been clear to you for 7 months that it wasn't welcome in that community and you persisted in posting against their rules.

YDI.

[–] UserChan__@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 9 minutes ago)

First, I was never notified, and it was a week ago that I saw the deleted posts. Although I don't have a screenshot of how much time passed, I don't need to make a big deal out of something that "was fair," and in this case, it wasn't. That tactic of taking screenshots of deleted posts to say "we warned you for months" when the ban was only a week ago is cheap manipulation. By deleting the posts recently due to the ban, they create false "evidence" that they try to pass off as a long history of "disobedience." It's a way to justify their own incompetence and lack of artistic judgment. If the ban was a week ago, there are no "months" of warnings. They're trying to rewrite the timeline to make it seem like I'm the "rebel" and you're the "patient" ones, when in reality, you're the ones who can't distinguish a human figure from a furry. Furthermore, I realized something while being "new to Lemmy" that you either don't or conveniently choose not to mention. The dates you show in your screenshot aren't from the exact moment the post was deleted; they're from the moment the post was made. Therefore, your "argument" that "they've been deleting them for months" is even more invalid. And I literally realized this by looking at your own deleted comments and posts. How ironic that a newbie foreigner would notice something so convenient, right? So yes, I'm still right that I was banned a week ago without any prior warning.

Second, is this the same old issue of whether I post in English again? Seriously? Some of you seem to think only Americans post here. These sites are universal, and English is used for that purpose, whether you like it or not. I'm noticing a certain condescension regarding this issue, which isn't even relevant to the case itself. Do you expect me to post in my language when many probably won't translate it? What a ridiculous argument. The "you don't know English and you still post" attack is pure xenophobia. On a global platform like Lemmy, using a translator to participate is perfectly valid. Using it as a weapon to invalidate your technical opinion about art is pathetic. Basically, they're telling you: "You don't have the right to defend your art if you don't speak our language perfectly."

Third, believe me, I did want to contact the moderators, but as I said, messaging on this site doesn't guarantee that my messages will reach them, and there isn't even a chat section outside of other apps the site recommends, and I'm not going to register there. Or maybe it's just my own inability to know where it is or how to use it. I'm not going to mess with something I don't know.

Fourth, I never said "I don't know how to post," read carefully, I wrote "I post on Lemmy and I'm leaving." You can accuse me of whatever you want, but I didn't break any rules. They never warned me because I never received any notifications, and that "they deleted it months ago" thing—so why did the posts disappear a week ago? Your accusation doesn't make sense. I've literally been posting since October, and the few posts I published—I never received a single warning, nor did anyone even tell me, "We consider this furry" (even though it isn't, under any circumstances). If I hadn't posted my characters, I would have stopped posting, period. I would have posted something else or just left on my own. But if you think I'm such a bad user for defending my art against injustice, that's your problem. I know what I did and what I didn't do.

Literally, the only furry thing is the TMNT fanart; the rest aren't furries. But you guys don't seem to get that. I've been polite, I've been patient, but calling me a liar is a whole other level for you. And on top of that, you're being condescending about the language, as if posting in English, Spanish, Italian, French, or whatever is important. What a way to deflect the issue and make me look like a problem for something you did without even telling me.

Having said all that, because I don't plan to continue a fight I didn't start, but rather wanted to end before it became a public circus due to your incompetence. If I'm the villain in your story, fine, I'm not going to keep justifying the obvious; I've already made everything crystal clear.

Hats the thing about attempting to do the same thing over and over expecting different results?

Just open a new community OP. Calm it furry art and do your own thing. You can't force other people to accept your own thing

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Even for a rule violation an immediate permaban for a regular poster is just egregious. PTB

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

100% agree. First offense permaban is for things like spam bots or egregious rule breaking.

People who otherwise participate in the community should be treated with moderation.

I'm not getting into the furry vs anthropomorphic animal debate, that's not my field.

[–] UserChan__@lemmy.ml 6 points 12 hours ago

Technically and literally I didn't infringe on anything because it's not furry-related. What she creates without knowing what she's banning is another matter entirely.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I think Tywèle having prejudice against people she considers furries is a red flag in my book maybe she didn't start that rule but she's clearly enforcing it with prejudice. Something good to keep in mind, maybe she didn't know it but anti-furry sentiment is frequently used as a smoke screen to cover up queerphobia. I can't say that she's using it for that, but anti-furry sentiment has a bad reputation for a reason. And she already was giving me bad vibes before.

Also I did very recently create a new Digital Art community on Pawb.social !digitalart@pawb.social despite being on pawb.social it's not exclusively a furry art community, it is a general purpose digital art community that people like you can post your art in, without having to worry about assholes like the mod who banned you.

[–] Nima@leminal.space 2 points 2 hours ago

i think its just that once you let furry artists start posting in an art community, it tends to get flooded with mostly furry art.

an exclusion doesn't necessarily mean prejudice. in this case it might just be to prevent it becoming only furry art.

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 11 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

good reminder that anti-furry is almost exclusively used to sneak in homophobia

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Also transphobia too. A lot of anti-furry people who've attacked me as of late were also being extremely transphobic. I've also seen it used that way in other places, like on Reddit.

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 8 points 11 hours ago

🫡 i support our draconic troops and their struggle against transphobes like pugjesus. In the fight against transphobia I'm gonna stand on the side that has the dragons

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 13 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

The rule is "furry or anthro related". Even if your art isn't strictly furry, from the one or two I see in your post history, it certainly has the same vibe as that genre so I'd call it "related". Doesn't really seem like a power trip, especially since they recommended other communities. I don't see that they acted out of prejudice or spite from your explanation.

[–] UserChan__@lemmy.ml 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I'd been posting stuff about a demon and a woman with wolf ears and a tail for months, not furries. There was never a single comment from the moderators about it, and like I said, it's not furry.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 hours ago

There were six removals of your art prior to this.

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 7 points 12 hours ago

Tywele isn't the mod who banned you, or removed your posts.

I’m not going to download external apps to open chats just for this

Lemmy has direct messages built in, she likely meant this.

Looking through the images themselves, I'd personally consider them furry except the last one that got you banned, so PTB I suppose.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 3 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Damn, this is one of those very rare instances when the original subject does matter for PTB.

Here's why I think that.

There is a good degree of overlap in the images that are what could be called "furry" in terms of what is usually described by that term as a thing of its own, and some yokai.

Now, kemonomimi is very often included by furries as part of, or at least loosely connected to, the "hobby" (for lack of a better word), so I could definitely see that as rule breaking and worthy of removal, though I would say a permaban based solely on that is too far. A warning and temp ban would be the appropriate step for what's available to be seen currently.

But, you gotta admit that drawing yokai can often look just like furry drawings, no matter what the origin of the creatures are. If your specific drawings look close enough to standard furry art, then it doesn't matter what you call it, it still isn't going to fly.

Since I can't see your posts, I can't say for sure how close your art came to what is generally accepted as imagery that fits "furry" art. And it does matter when it comes to a PTB opinion because the rule is there to curate out a range of imagery, no matter what the origins. Furry stuff is not purely anthropomorphic at this point, nor has it been for a very long time. You may choose not to agree with that, but it does sway whether the mod calling your art furry art is making a reasonable interpretation.

Now, I tend to lean PTB in this case since you say you'd been posting with no issues. If your first and only mod action for a user after that long is an immediate ban, you're kinda bring a dick.

I'm not sure why you'd try making comments in a different community to try and contact a mod though, you can do that directly in other ways without having to download anything extra.

I'm also confused how you made this post and expect to read the comments if you don't speak English at least a little. Your writing in English is just fine as far as that goes.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 4 points 7 hours ago

Apparently there were seven posts removed previously, this wasn't want a ban for a first action https://lemmy.zip/comment/25327559

[–] UserChan__@lemmy.ml 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Two points: 1- I already explained what furry is and what it isn't.

2- I use a translator and translate the page.

3- An extra point, haha. Here's an example of a yokai demon with a kemonomimi. Art I uploaded there.

4- Another extra example, normal/mythical animal art, without a antro.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 9 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

No, you explained your definition of what is and isn't furry.

But, it looks like whatever translator you're using is really good! I would not have guessed.

Do you have other examples of art you actually posted?

Because that first one is very, very much like the furry art that goes around. The second one, absolutely not furry imo.

[–] forestbeasts@pawb.social 3 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Banned for posting furry art?? WTF?

(at least, if your stuff even is furry, which it sounds like it isn't)

Furry is in fact broader than anthropomorphic stuff, actually. I'm a fur, I'm a full-on wolf, any art of me is also furry art. :3 Even if it looks indistinguishable from a painting of an average wolf.

That said, anyone who'd ban furry art like this (anthropomorphic or not) is just a dickhead. And probably anti-queer.

Going "but I'm not a furry!" won't really help you against the dickheads. The good news is, they're dickheads, and they're not worth your time to try to appease.

-- Frost

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

That said, anyone who’d ban furry art like this (anthropomorphic or not) is just a dickhead. And probably anti-queer.

It's very often used as a smokescreen to mask queerphobia. I've always gotten bad vibes from Tywèle so would probably be best to steer clear of her and any communities she might moderate.

And yeah I agree that there's no point in trying to appeal to assholes like this, because once they decide something about you they're not going to change their mind.

CC: @UserChan__@lemmy.ml

Edit: I don't want to hear any bullshit arguments about how she's trans and can't be queerphobic. Trans people absolutely can be queerphobic. I also didn't specifically say that Tywèle is queerphobic. I said she gives me bad vibes, and that anti-furry sentiment is often used as a smoke screen for queerphobia, which is true. I cannot say with any certainty that Tywèle is or isn't queerphobic.

[–] UserChan__@lemmy.ml 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They're confused because they lump everything related to animals into the category of furry, and it isn't. I assume that since you're a furry, you wouldn't compare a human or demon with animal features to a furry (or even a therian), much less a normal or mythical animal. Furthermore, according to that moderator's "logic," a fairy and a mermaid (things she posts in her communities) are furries—that's how ridiculous this is.

[–] forestbeasts@pawb.social 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Oof yeah 100%.

I definitely wouldn't consider fairies and mermaids furry, even by a stretch. I was mostly thinking "broader than anthropomorphic animals" in the OTHER direction (towards the realistic animal side), hehe. :3

Patently ridiculous!

(also yeah I'm therian myself too =^.^=)

-- Frost