No Stupid Questions

Trump is the disposable useful idiot to be the fall guy if the fascist coup fails. Everyone will pretend to sober up with their "it wasn't us, it was him and we tried to fight it from the inside, but he was just too powerful." story. These lines are well rehearsed.

The fascist party is still fully present and accounted for, and are learning to exercise their newfound powers with alarming speed. Trump dying fixes nothing. They lose a figurehead, and the idiot fallguy. Their plans don't stop. If anything they accelerate and intensify because their big escape clause just disapeared and the cost of failure goes up.

At this point, it should be clear to everyone that Trump is a symptom, he is not the disease.

Vance (and Peter Theil by proxy) become president.

It's extremely rare for a cult to survive the death of its leader.
The only one I know of is Scientology.

Vance would become POTUS, but he won't be able to keep MAGA united. Remember, Rump is miraculously keeping both pro Israel Zionists and anti-Semitic Neo-Nazis together on the same team. As well as others who would be natural enemies. MAGA will collapse. Vance'll almost certainly loose in '28.

I'm throwing a big friggin party

The maga movement does not seem to do well without Trump.

No, things would not change. Republicans would still control the Supreme Court. Over the last couple of years they learned that they can get away with anything: breaking any laws they want, straight out stealing money, building concentration camps, sending gestapo to murder people... They will not stop doing this only because Trump is dead.

Who exactly will take over after Trump is impossible to tell. Watch The Death of Stalin by Iannucci. This is exactly what will happen. A lot of infighting and backstabbing until new king of MAGA is crowned.

Vance would accuse Democrats of assassination and impletement martial law and arrest Democrats

It doesn't matter even if it's a heart attack

One of the interesting things to consider is the timing. He's been bleeding popularity the whole time but death has a way of buffing up your reputation. If enough people turn against him before he dies, he becomes broadly a villain. If he dies tomorrow, there's still a huge number of people who will think of him as a martyred saint.

The rest of the world will have a party to celebrate.

Americans will find a new rapist murderer.

Parties. Celebration. But things won't really improve in the short term. Medium term, maybe the cult fractures, but fascism is much bigger than this one fuckhead.

Still, parties.

What is likely to happen? Lots of people pissing on his grave.

Vance is smarter than Trump, less driven by his own impulses, and more directly under the control of Thiel

He doesn’t have the cult of personality Trump does, but if/when you’ve rigged the elections so you’ll always win, what does that matter?

MAGA is a classic Cult of Personality, and Trump's death will be the end. Like all Dictators, he won't name a successor because he doesn't want to give any power to anyone else, so he'll let Rubio and Vance fight it out for his own entertainment.

Meanwhile there are a bunch of MAGA losers entertaining the fantasy of taking over MAGA when Trump dies. Guys like Don Jr. You don't think he feels like he's ENTITLED to succeed his father to the throne? Or Hegseth? Or Lindsey Graham? Or DeSantis? Or Abbot? Or Tucker Carlson?

When Trump assumes room temperature, the knives are going to come out, and the backstabbing will begin. It will be glorious.

Dems should know this is coming upon Trump's inevitable death, and understand that it will be a unique golden moment for them. They better be ready to take full advantage of that opportunity with a plan in place to deploy when it happens.

We get couch fucker who is a Peter “I can see the Antichrist “ Theil bitch boy.

There is a long list of politicians who have tried to do the Trump thing ever since the stupid escalator. Florida Governor DeSantis made a tiny little bit of headway that ultimately collapsed around him, Marge Greene has been setting herself up as the post-Maga maga leader, and Ted Cruz of Texas has been trying for the longest time to position himself as heir apparent of the current GOP, but there hasn't been anyone who has been able to capture the same spectrum of blind devotion to grudging acceptance that Donald Trump has somehow managed to unite into the Maga movement.

JD Vance certainly isn't it, and while he'll certainly get the Oval Office when Trump dies before completing his term, I think his presidency will be fairly unremarkable and rather short, and afterwards he'll move into private equity consulting or some such and never be seen in politics again.

But without Joe Rogan and Charlie Kirk, and with a ton of the other influencers either jumping ship or losing face, I don't think we'll see the same focus on a single candidate again. Since 2016, we've had a historical alignment of domestic influence and foreign interference that focused on Trump specifically, and he has used that (as he always does) to build the Trump brand and only the Trump brand. Nobody else can use it; not even Don Jr., who has tried dipping his toes in and mostly been ignored.

So I think the answer is, the maga cult sputters and dies. Maybe it sticks around long enough to poison the waters for a couple more election cycles, but it won't elect another president. The best case scenario, in my mind, would be maga breaking away from the GOP and trying to field candidates for a few years that become spoilers.

Either way, the Republicans will eventually put the mask back on and try to pretend like nothing ever happened (though I can't possibly predict whether that'll work. My gut says yes, but maybe that's just me being cynical).

I for one. Will take a few days off work to celebrate like I've never celebrated before, and will make whatever day that is a personal holiday for myself and make sure to take paid vacation every year on that day.

Politicians will use his death for X agenda. vance is primed for it and Erika Kirk is a good case study.

Many people will party, others will mourn. Some will fake what they are feeling for favours. The same as when any head of state dies.

Peter Thiel, the puppeteer of Shady Vance, will enact the final phase of his forced "rapture".

Most likely a mad struggle for power among those in his circle alongside a struggle to be seen as the heir. Vance has an advantage here, but you can see other players making their moves including Greene. Had Kirk been alive he honestly might've been my dark horse bet. But if nobody wins a sufficient coalition then everyone loses. Some of the ideas will remain, but mostly the energized masses return to how they were before him or they'll split into their feuding factions where the San Francisco technofascists and the Midwesterners who hate change and the southerners who just hate everyone different from them are all back at each other's throats and all are disgusted with Nick Fuentes

Vance would become president and at the next election in three years, people would vote again. Vance is an opportunist, he would probably continue trumps policies, tweak them here, cancel some there and try to get reelected; perhaps without daily tweets and erratic behavior… but similarly dangerous; ever since his speech at the MSC, I don’t trust the lil fella with the backpfeifengesicht.

I'll go into the nearest pub and buy everyone a round.

Things are likely to stay pretty shitty as Trump is a symptom rather than an underlying cause, but we've had precious little to celebrate.

I will celebrate so hard

I’m gonna get scolded for how much of a raging party throw

Vance would get his chance to meet Putin personally (and finally learn to kneel before him).

We'd get Vance, who is arguably worse. Seriously. Look into the guy. He's a freakshow, but more subtle than Trump. Still very stupid though, so we'd still be led by a stupid extremist.

The cult as we know it would end though. Vance isn't going to be able to take over as cult leader. He doesn't have the flamboyant bigotry that Trump does, which is what draws low IQ conservatives to him like he's some idol.

Doesn't matter. I've witnessed conservatives all my life. With Trump gone, they'll absolutely vote for the next shitstain racist/fascist/bigot/moron the Republican party hands them. Because they will never, under any circumstances, vote blue. And they'll never vote 3rd party cuz they won't want to risk baby eating Democrats gaining power. So they'll bite their tongues and vote for whatever Republican is on the menu. And now that Trump has opened Pandora's Box, we're just going to see worse and worse candidates from Republicans because they watched and saw what Trump was able to get away with, so they'll take advantage, because why wouldn't they? They'll want their turn to grift the presidency to create their own dynasty.

I don't want to make a Monday even shittier than it already is, but realistically, things are probably going to get worse, not better, even with Trump gone. But hey, at least we won't have to hear his fucking voice anymore or wake up wondering what monumentally stupid thing he's said or done every fucking day.