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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 57 minutes ago (2 children)

Wikipedia is an American company, but it does have global reach. Reported as inappropriate for !world@lemmy.world but I'll allow it for now.

Still a better fit for !news@lemmy.world !technology@lemmy.world or !business@lemmy.world

[–] who@feddit.org 5 points 51 minutes ago* (last edited 48 minutes ago)

I considered that the nonprofit organization behind Wikipedia is in the US, but decided that World News is appropriate in this case, since a great deal of the world relies on it, and since its content comes from international contributors. So I guess our thoughts are aligned.

Thanks for allowing it.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 2 points 47 minutes ago* (last edited 22 minutes ago)

Of note, Jordan, is that this guideline is strictly for the English Wikipedia unless other Wikipedias decide to adopt it (IIRC the German Wikipedia already adopted one some time ago). Nevertheless, we get contributions and readership from non-English-speaking countries all the time as the first, most complete, and easily most active Wikipedia. (And, of course, English-speaking countries are very much not just the US; practically every grain of sand in the UK has its own article, for example.)

I agree with you therefore that this constitutes world news.


Edit: you can use the WikiStats 2 tool to easily visualize that. Lots of visits from India, as an example. Additionally, the English Wikipedia gets slightly more visitors per capita from the UK than it does from the US.

[–] Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one 30 points 2 hours ago

It absolutely does introduce errors.

Wikipedia typically summarizes the cited source. LLMs don't use the language in the source to write a summary. It comes up with its own language. LLM cited text usually gets removed for uncited claims because the claims just aren't in the reliable source.

[–] dotCody@lemmy.world 15 points 2 hours ago

Cool. Now lets ban nearly all AI-generated content worldwide.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 9 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

AI is going to be useful in a number of areas.

This isn't one of them.

The best use of AI is when it can look up existing text that you know already exists and apply it to your circumstances.

Wikipedia is the opposite of that. It is the existing text. AI Wikipedia would be the exact ouroburos of bullshitifying the Internet that experts have been warning about.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It could have some tangential uses, done responsibly. "Hey Claude, check the source material for all of these citations and find any that disagree with the way they're being used in the Wikipedia article."

And then, critically, you have a human review that output.

[–] acantharea@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

That last part is the real zinger lol

The temptation to skim and feel like you've done all the hard work in looking it up and synthesizing after only just hitting the lazy button is wild. I use deep research functions a lot for work and I was super naive in my ability to grasp the underlying knowledge off reading that content let alone trusting it. Found my knowledge was super squishy or lacking depth to answer any questions or leverage it with any meaningful degree that i normally would have prior to this tech.

Its been embarrassingly harder than I would like to admit in trying prevent myself from using it in that way other than just a fancy google search. The temptation is there like fast food ready to hit my veins - but I am getting better

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 59 minutes ago

Yep. I’ve been using AI more for work and if I’m not vigilant it will fuck up. It’s like having a very fast intern. You still have to check their work carefully.

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I’m the same. AI search is usually my first port of call these days because traditional search engines are so shit now. I’d estimate that its summaries are around 80% accurate. Yet, even knowing that, i still have to fight the temptation to just accept what it says and instead check the sources

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I got certified for a software suite and at the end during Q & A the instructor just pulled up chat gpt with all the install manuals preloaded to answer people's hardware/version specific questions.

Everyone acting like AI being useful is an outlier is coping. Rightfully so given the state of the world but still coping.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It's the dotcom boom and bust.

The hype among corpos that AI is going to replace all labor is stupid. But when the bust happens and the hype dies down, we're still gonna be ordering pizzas online, Amazon will exist, and it'll be a thing we work with forever.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 40 minutes ago) (1 children)

What's different about this boom is that it's being used to fund purchases of land, computer hardware, and data centers. Unlike the dot com bust, where all the devalued companies left behind was mostly useless websites.

So they'll be able to maintain their market dominance of AI, just under private ownership instead of the defunct public companies that went bust.

This is a ball and cup game, more so a Ponzi scheme, than the fomo pump and dump that was dot com.

Edit: It's Enron 3.0

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 58 minutes ago (1 children)

So you’re saying there’s gonna be a glut of graphics card and RAM eventually?

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 2 points 41 minutes ago

Sadly probably not.

This ball and cup game is basically Enron 3.0; where they use revenue they haven't earned yet, to pre-purchase ram/hardware that hasn't been made yet.

Since all of them are in bed with each other I doubt us poors will see more than mere drips when everything gets liquidated.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 55 minutes ago)

Uhhh, ask me anything, I guess? This is the first I'm hearing of this guideline, as I missed the RFC, ~~but it was published February 10, so I'm confused why 404 is suddenly reporting it now~~ (edit: I was confusing it with the LLM translation guideline which they also link). 404 gets a subtle nuance wrong by calling it a "policy" rather than a "guideline", which are technically different on Wikipedia, but it's not worth splitting hairs for the general public.

Wikipedia editor, Ilyas Lebleu, who goes by Chaotic Enby on Wikipedia and who proposed the guideline

I've actually talked to them a few times before; they're really cool.


Edit: Oh, okay, the article is actually discussing two guidelines. This one is what they're mainly referring to. Speedy deletion criterion G15, a precursor to this, is related and says that articles predominantly created by an LLM without human oversight can be speedily deleted.