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Close, its never (or rarely) about cutting out bad habits.
Its about filling your life up with good habits.
Now go get a magic wand for your household. Edit: sharing is caring.
Got a magic wand and can confirm, I spend a lot less time on my phone.
Thanks, Hitachi!
What's frustrating about this "Your consumer habits are wrong, you should make them better" is that Twitter was (ostensibly) the space for the liberal intelligencia to go for journalism and debate and organizing until Elon Musk bought it.
Does anything stop a billionaire from buying up or shutting down the next social media platform? We can wax poetic about Lemmy/Mastadon as a decentralized and indie-operated environment. But crazy to think Joe Biden/Donald Trump can squash TikTok with a few swipes of the pen, that Feds can play wack-a-mole with ZArchive and Anna's Archive and Wikileaks, etc, while insisting the main hosts for the most popular indie media sites are bulletproof.
Might as well tell people to stop using the internet entirely.
Ill defer to you.
Except lemme, ive had no social media for...3 years now.
In that time, ive taken up muay thai, gratitude practices, doestevesky, made more rl friends and started a new business.
From what little ive read, X/Twitter has never been for debate....but instead existed as a warzone.
Thoughts?
It remains insane to me that it's so hard for so many to just, not use them. Truly, your life is not being enriched by twitter or Facebook. You can delete your account and I promise you won't find yourself missing them.
Living rurally, the main thing I hear is "but marketplace". It's a pretty crucial way of getting cheap goods.
Honestly Marketplace is the best argument for FB today. How it has usurped Craigslist I don't understand, maybe because it's easier to navigate, but you're right that it is the defacto modern market.
I don't use it so I forget about it, but this is a good counterpoint.
I believe a major reason is reputation tied to a person's account. OfferUp has also superceded Craigslist in my area and I think the user history and reputation system plays a role there. Same with other stuff like eBay, Mercari, StockX. Craigslist is too anonymous
it’s so hard for so many to just, not use them
Networking Effect is a bitch. It's like telling someone to stop using AT&T or United Airlines. These are the major arteries of communication for billions of people. Individuals can't abstain from using them without isolating themselves.
You can delete your account and I promise you won’t find yourself missing them.
Spoken like someone who doesn't have their entire extended family posting and chatting on the sites regularly. I get calls from extended family, asking me to weigh in on long conversations and exchanges and posting sprees. And then when I respond on the phone, I get a "No, you have to post it, I'm not going to just repeat it to everyone for you".
Tons of social pressure to just go where everyone else is.
The problem is addiction. Same as any other drug. It's no coincidence that Facebook and X were rolled out as free services, with free accounts, where you can interact with anyone for free.
Before the digital drug dealers running each changed that deal. Needing money, running ads, and restricting what you can do that all used to be free.
These companies got us addicted to using tech in place of human socialization and then monitized that addiction.
People can't leave because for some it's the only human contact they have. Even if it's artificial, they still want it to the point of it hurting themselves. Just like any other addiction.
I find the disagreement between Cohn and Stewart towards the end to be fascinating. I find it hard to agree or disagree with either. Cohn is looking out for places like the Fediverse - she knows that if the platforms are subjected to regulation that is impossible to live up to for small actors, this will only serve the capitalists. In the US the law would for sure end up serving this purpose because it would be designed by the billionaires themselves, and they would design them in a way that monopolizes the internet even more as they discuss earlier on.
On the other hand, Stewarts is also right. An Instagram feed is not free speech, it's brain rot and propaganda and ruins society and lives. It needs to be regulated. Just letting then go on as they are while promoting alternatives misses the mark as to the threat posed by these platforms. Cohn seems to have a blind spot here.
I think the EU has reached a reasonable compromise. They regulate very large online platforms - platforms with more than 45 million users in the EU - separately from smaller platforms. So your obligations increase with your number of users. Furthermore, EU regulation has exceptions for open source not-for-profit development, to avoid regulation aimed at big tech from hurting free software.
Interesting enough I keep seeing people on the Fediverse attacking the Digital Services Act as though it's gonna mean the end of the Fediverse, even though the Commission is actively posting about it on their own Mastodon instance and the EU is actively supporting the development of the Fediverse through NLnet. It seems to me that even in these spaces people fall for big tech propaganda.
On the other hand, Stewarts is also right. An Instagram feed is not free speech, it's brain rot and propaganda and ruins society and lives. It needs to be regulated. Just letting then go on as they are while promoting alternatives misses the mark as to the threat posed by these platforms. Cohn seems to have a blind spot here.
I don't think so. She said she wants to make them unable to continue with their business like they did before, with regulations. Just not outright censorship, but instead go fight their data harvesting, decapitating their business strategy.
I’m doing my part!
I never used Twitter in the first place, so I guess I'm not in the "addicted" category, but I did have an account, in November of 2024 I did actively cancel that X account. Google pushes me X links in my "news feed" I consistently tell Google "No more stories from ____ on X" (they won't let you block all of X, I wonder why....)
Seriously, folks, how hard is it to just walk away? I was on BlueSky for about 3-4 months, got a little invested/addicted to the platform and took a hard look at what value I was getting from it - on balance: negative. Cold turkey, do I miss it? No.
Facebook holds a (solitary) users group I occasionally want to talk with captive, they acknowledge it's a terrible platform but they're too lazy to leave, so I log in when I need to talk with them and that's it. Anybody "in there" I care about? Long distance phone calls are free these days, e-mail works, why should I be sharing stuff with people I don't know just to communicate with people I do know?
Same. I dropped FB and Twitter several years ago. It helped that I'm old and never kept in touch with family through FB to begin with. Also, I don't buy crap I don't need, so I never used their marketplace.
There are alternatives, but as long as FB doesn't remove features that people use, they won't leave. They can't see that they're being abused, just like every other abusive relationship.
Watch the video, they have a great discussion. Jon Stewart seems to think Reddit is great now and Cindy Cohn fights back a little.
In Jon's defense, Reddit was fairly good and useful (unlike Twitter or FB) at one point many years ago. If you're not active there it would be easy to think things are still good.
I'm doing my part.
I've always done my part. Never understood twitter in the first place!
Very cool of him to have a spokesperson for the EFF on, they have tirelessly been fighting the good fight for decades now, they deserve all the spotlight.
Not just a spokesperson. Cindy Cohn is a warrior queen. She's retiring as Executive Director of the EFF this year after serving for over 10 years. She's a lawyer who has been fighting for our civil liberties for over 20 years. Maximum respect.
good luck, this is like trying to convince a heroin addict to quit because it's bad for them....
social media algorithms are too good, they are too enticing. They have turned distraction into a multi-trillion dollar industry, and they are impacting every single one of our lives whether we are even on the platform or not
Problem is discipline. Reach for a book instead of doom scrolling. Get something done on the house instead of reading X shitposts. The way most people use phones is a sick addiction that needs treatment, and nobody intervenes. I mean people can't look in front of their 2 ton steel cage while they hum down the road at 80mph without checking if some random twat added to their snap story lol.
You and I are the same. Ive been replacing phone distraction crap with better things like books and crafts. Or my GBC, lol
The human brain can't handle all the shit in our devices. They're detrimental to learning.
I recall a book where people were mandated to have an ear piece that shrieks every 6 seconds, to make sure no one ever has any deep thoughts, to keep them dumb and compliant. Guess what our phone notifications are doing? Its probably the worst thing humans have done in the long term.
She was a great guest - and it was really cool to hear the "mastadonverse" shoutout haha.
While not 100% her final point, one of the greatest disappointments of the Internet has been watching rot and crumble into just 5 websites, each just posting screenshots/videos from the other four.
Give them a few more years and every site except big social media will be flagged as dangerous in your browser, like those without valid SSL certs are now.
Pushing SSL was probably the last big tech effort/push that actually benefited users. Sure it made self hosting a little harder, and probably consolidated some tracking behind bigger players, but overall end users did benefit.
Most of what I see now is purely for their benefit and users don't benefit.
Yeah, rallying against SSL is a weird way to go about it. SSL is one of the biggest and most meaningful changes to come about as a result of the Snowden leaks. The leaks were literally what prompted http to shift towards https instead, because it shined a bright spotlight on how insecure http truly is.
In the short term, it made self-hosting more difficult. But nowadays, with things like nginx and Let’s Encrypt, enabling SSL on your self-hosted site is as simple as selecting a few drop-down boxes, pasting an API key, and automating a cert refresh.
The true “has the potential to gatekeep the entire internet” existential threat is when a company like Meta or Google becomes the authority for things like ID verification or SSO.
I love how Jon thinks reddit is now good. way to miss the mark there man.
I guess they had the opposite development of Twitter, banning hateful content and trying to keep their house clean. Compared to Zuck and Musk whoever runs Reddit can probably be argued to be a great humanist.
Not saying it's a good platform. It's still a cesspool in my experience, and their approach to moderation produces a wild amount of false positives while bots are roaming free. It seems to me very far from a place for genuine human connection.
Nevertheless, for someone who sees social media as being Instagram, Facebook, X, TikTok, Reddit, and Snapchat, I can see how Reddit stands out as the better option.
It's too bad Cohn didn't get to talk more about Mastodon.
EFF supporter for years. Have so many of their t-shirts (amazing designs, btw). Cindy Cohn is the real deal. Anyone online should go pay attention to them.
We’ve been fucking trying for what? Nearly twenty years?!
Then she says Bluesky doesn't have an algorithm while he defends the openness of Reddit.
These are the experts...
The value of social media lies is in it's ability to change thoughts, opinions, and long-term behavior. The public underestimates how effective this technology is, especially when it comes to children. In the absence of regulations, these platforms can make people believe just about anything by exploiting perceived peer pressure.
Americans: No.
