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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Man I can't wait to upgrade my device/GPU with AV1 hardware support

AI slop bubble fart reverb sfx

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 3 points 43 minutes ago

AMD's XT 7000 series is available for cheap as already a few gens old, or Intel ARC

[–] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 29 points 6 hours ago

If I come up with a concept in philosophy can I patent it and charge money when people use it in their philosophy? Fees for codecs operate on this plane of backwardness. Patents in and of themselves are stupid enough, but the capacity for stupidity within patenting knows no bounds apparently.

[–] No1@aussie.zone 42 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Wait, is Stallman right again?

AGAIN?

[–] Teppa@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Stallman only eats open sores.

[–] Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

tiny bit clickbait, small companies are still at $100,000 unchanged

![Classification of companies as Nascent/Small based on units of content provided and type of content delivery:

OTTStreaming FASTStreaming Social Media Cloud Gaming Cable/SatelliteTelevision OTANetwork
<5M <20M <500M <5M <1.5M <100M ](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/97191cb5-a66b-4b26-a208-ea4c419d01d1.webp)

not that that should exist, either

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 hour ago

What could possibly be worth my predicted lifetime worth of earnings?!?

[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 36 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Here's why it doesn't matter:

"AOMedia Video 1 (AV1) is an open, royalty-free video coding format initially designed for video transmissions over the Internet. It was developed as a successor to VP9 by the Alliance for Open Media (AOMedia),[3] a consortium founded in 2015 that includes semiconductor firms, video on demand providers, video content producers, software development companies and web browser vendors."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AV1

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The best part of the article is the very end, even if the site makes it look unrelated.

Avanci's Video pool and Access Advance's Video Distribution Patent pool are both now seeking content royalties from streaming services for the use of HEVC, VVC, VP9, and AV1. Access Advance's rates are capped at roughly $63 million per year, and Avanci has published rates of 1.6% to 2.0% of revenue or $0.12 to $0.15 per user per month.

$4.5 million max for H.264 is rookie numbers vs. the $63 million max for AV1

[–] Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 22 minutes ago

How does someone seek royalties on an open, royalty-free video coding format?

[–] Justifier@lemmy.world 35 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

Here's why it does matter

Most server hardware thats out there right now doesn't support av1 encoding, so all of those, literally tens of thousands of them in thousands of spread out data centers have to be replaced with brand new +$1,500 a pop cards that do support it before they can use it

[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 1 points 28 minutes ago

This is only really true if you have extreme throughput requirements, a regular VOD operation can get by fine on software encoding.

If you have the kind of throughput needs that warrant hardware encoders you're going to want to go ASIC anyway, so regular server hardware won't cut it. Like YouTube for example had to build their own ASICs because of the downright absurd scale they are running at

[–] null@lemmy.org 9 points 6 hours ago (9 children)

I was gonna say, I like AV1, but my Plex server says otherwise.

[–] Tilgare@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I'm using a 15 year old i5 and a GTX 970, having no issues with AV1 video. Curious what hardware you're running.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I doubt that it's doing real time transcoding in av1, probably just sending the file "as-is" to your client device and you're noticing as modern networks allow real time streaming of files with that size

My server with much newer components does like 5 fps in encoding av1

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

Neither of those things support AV1 encoding or decoding. Curious how you’ve come to believe you’re having “no issues” with a codec your hardware has no support for.

[–] Tilgare@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Software decoding has clearly been sufficient.

[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You don't need HW acceleration to playback AV1. Maybe they watch most of their content at 720p and are software decoding and it's been good enough.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Yeah you’re going to need HW acceleration to encode AV1 on your server “without issues”.

Theres a world of difference between something that’s technically possible and something that will just work without issues of any kind. Something being “good enough” implies the existence of caveats. Mainly being that’d be a shitty experience lol.

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[–] Justifier@lemmy.world 21 points 8 hours ago

And those servers are what process your Twitchs, your YouTubes, your Netflixs and etc services

[–] Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Most hardware can't decode it either which is very important. Also it's currently being sued over patents

[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 2 points 26 minutes ago

Most hardware is only really true if you account for older hardware in circulation, most new hardware will be shipping hardware decoder support for AV1.

On top of this, the software decoder support is remarkable for AV1, libdav1d is a marvelous piece of software, bringing access to a plethora of devices lacking hardware decoder support.

[–] mschae@discuss.mschae23.de 19 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Can't be too sure about that: https://sh.itjust.works/post/57524423

The whole patent system should just be abolished. And if we can't achieve that, at least software patents.

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[–] LordMayor@piefed.social 138 points 10 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] raicon@lemmy.world 157 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

open formats is the way to go. Patents seems more and more like a scam

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 52 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Figures. Patents are the backbone of capitalism. Some say it invented capitalism as we know it.

[–] elvith@feddit.org 32 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

I mean, I get the idea of patents. If there were no protection of "ideas", some random person could have one, try to bring it to market but could just be outplayed by a big corporation with enough money to copy this idea and sell it everywhere before he can even start production. They have more resources and money, but might not have had that idea. There should be some protection. Problem is, that these are also abused by the big corporations, so... Maybe we need to fix this somehow.

[–] Cellari@lemmy.world 1 points 25 minutes ago

It's usually fixed with a good competition. No one corporate can abuse the system if viable competitions exists.

But if I had to give some critique, then the duration for USA patent system is one that can create a money grab system by creating a costly dependency to a legacy system that has grown so long it is hard to replace.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 10 hours ago

Software algorithms should not be patentable.

[–] knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Sure for physical things that need prototypes and materials. That is not a thing with software.

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 hours ago

Development cost is still a thing with software.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 9 hours ago

It's an outdated legalism. 250 years ago, the patent office operated as an incentive to record and register ideas to the public in exchange for exclusive commercial license.

Now that simply isn't an issue

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 96 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

quietly

Stop putting "quietly" in your fucking headlines, you hacks. This wasn't "quiet", it was very publicly announced.

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 hours ago

Via LA told Streaming Media that it contacted unlicensed media companies during 2025 to give them “a window to secure a license” under the previous terms, but the company didn’t go to the trouble of issuing a press release or public announcement, opting instead for direct outreach. Any company that didn’t respond or wasn't contacted now faces the new rate structure as its starting point for negotiations.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 48 points 10 hours ago (2 children)
[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 27 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

slammed

Stop putting "slammed" in your fucking comments, you hacks. This wasn't "the WWE", it was very obviously Lemmy.

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[–] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 47 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Last attempt to squeeze some money before these formats are abandoned in favor of competition, I guess.

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[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 30 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Thing that bothers me is these guys are claiming to have patents over AV1.

The whole point of av1 is it supposed to be free of this bullshit.

[–] chisel@piefed.social 3 points 4 hours ago

Aye, but AV1 uses math to make the videos smaller, which is the same technology h.264 uses, so clearly it's patent infringement!

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