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[–] Paragone@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

Legally VP8 is beginning to look like the go-to format for video..

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[–] FalschgeldFurkan@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Does this have any impact towards the consumer?

[–] antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 hours ago

Disconnect your TV from the internet and don’t let it update (downgrade) your software.

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Probably price increases to offset corporate losses.

[–] 7101334@lemmy.world 1 points 16 minutes ago

Price increases on streaming services you mean?

If so, a magical alternative exists on the high seas, or so I've heard

[–] Fontasia@feddit.nl 8 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Oh look just as the AV1 consortium is also deciding to do shakedowns. It's a good thing the open source community have a history of building functional and well performing codecs, especially when it comes to media formats.

[–] milliams@lemmy.world 26 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe in misunderstanding, but that story seems to be about Dolby going after AV1, not the other way around.

[–] LorIps@lemmy.world 16 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Lemmy really has a piss poor reading comprehension.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

You mean the world

[–] raldone01@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

Oh man. I hope Dolby looses. Patents are way too long and benefit so few that I think they shouldn't be justified/exist in society. Also some stuff should be decided in court to be essential technology and patents/claims should then be dissolved/voided.

[–] Paragone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I believe the error was in the AV1 license NOT having a "if you enforce patent-license-fees on this codec, THEN you can't use this codec" type of coercion..

( I may have got the logic wrong, but there's some kind of license that works that way, which other open codecs have used, apparently )

Just ignoring that predators exist .. provides NO protection from them.

You have to make your license-agreement break abusers, .. or you're just helping them.

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[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago
[–] mlg@lemmy.world 18 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Man I can't wait to upgrade my device/GPU with AV1 hardware support

AI slop bubble fart reverb sfx

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 12 points 10 hours ago

AMD's XT 7000 series is available for cheap as already a few gens old, or Intel ARC

[–] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 44 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

If I come up with a concept in philosophy can I patent it and charge money when people use it in their philosophy? Fees for codecs operate on this plane of backwardness. Patents in and of themselves are stupid enough, but the capacity for stupidity within patenting knows no bounds apparently.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 points 30 minutes ago (1 children)

I'm gonna go patent Marxism lol. Maybe I'll patent irony at the same time.

[–] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 minutes ago

Something like that very vaguely happened.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_&_Wishart

[–] No1@aussie.zone 74 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Wait, is Stallman right again?

AGAIN?

[–] Newsteinleo@infosec.pub 11 points 4 hours ago

I have met Stallman, I don't like Stallman, Stallman is right about most thing related software licensing.

[–] Teppa@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

Stallman only eats open sores.

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[–] LordMayor@piefed.social 186 points 20 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] raicon@lemmy.world 219 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

open formats is the way to go. Patents seems more and more like a scam

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 73 points 20 hours ago (14 children)

Figures. Patents are the backbone of capitalism. Some say it invented capitalism as we know it.

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[–] Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

tiny bit clickbait, small companies are still at $100,000 unchanged

![Classification of companies as Nascent/Small based on units of content provided and type of content delivery:

OTTStreaming FASTStreaming Social Media Cloud Gaming Cable/SatelliteTelevision OTANetwork
<5M <20M <500M <5M <1.5M <100M ](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/97191cb5-a66b-4b26-a208-ea4c419d01d1.webp)

not that that should exist, either

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 5 points 10 hours ago

What could possibly be worth my predicted lifetime worth of earnings?!?

[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 48 points 18 hours ago (6 children)

Here's why it doesn't matter:

"AOMedia Video 1 (AV1) is an open, royalty-free video coding format initially designed for video transmissions over the Internet. It was developed as a successor to VP9 by the Alliance for Open Media (AOMedia),[3] a consortium founded in 2015 that includes semiconductor firms, video on demand providers, video content producers, software development companies and web browser vendors."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AV1

[–] Justifier@lemmy.world 51 points 17 hours ago (26 children)

Here's why it does matter

Most server hardware thats out there right now doesn't support av1 encoding, so all of those, literally tens of thousands of them in thousands of spread out data centers have to be replaced with brand new +$1,500 a pop cards that do support it before they can use it

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[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The best part of the article is the very end, even if the site makes it look unrelated.

Avanci's Video pool and Access Advance's Video Distribution Patent pool are both now seeking content royalties from streaming services for the use of HEVC, VVC, VP9, and AV1. Access Advance's rates are capped at roughly $63 million per year, and Avanci has published rates of 1.6% to 2.0% of revenue or $0.12 to $0.15 per user per month.

$4.5 million max for H.264 is rookie numbers vs. the $63 million max for AV1

[–] Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

How does someone seek royalties on an open, royalty-free video coding format?

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 6 points 8 hours ago

By claiming that you own patents on technology used by said format.

The "open royalty free" aspect applies to companies that are a part of the AOMedia group, if you're not involved with them you're not covered by the patent grants and restrictions in place, and can charge whatever the courts say is cool.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 121 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

quietly

Stop putting "quietly" in your fucking headlines, you hacks. This wasn't "quiet", it was very publicly announced.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 59 points 20 hours ago (6 children)
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