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I am a tradesman with a lot of technical skills with some specialized skills in short supply (at least in the US) with a little less than a decade of experience. My partner is a skilled social worker with more than a decade of experience.

We cannot afford a golden visa in any country.

We are at least 3rd generation Americans, and do not have the right to claim citizenship in any other country without going through the immigration and naturalization process there.

Neither of us is very good at picking up a new language (lord how I've tried)

Where could we realistically look to go?

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[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 14 points 59 minutes ago (1 children)

Most Americans I know who moved here (Norway) did so after landing a job that they moved here for. Moving here and then trying to find a job is a great method for going broke in a couple of weeks.

Plus, lining up a job beforehand makes the visa ordeal easy.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 1 points 9 minutes ago

To find jobs in Norway, try searching for the word "jobbportal". At least some of these sites allow you to sort for English language jobs.

[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 4 points 10 minutes ago

Picking up a new language is much easier if you use the Comprehensible Input method, which is fun and easy. It's essentially learning language like a child learns. You watch videos that are 100% in the target language. In the beginning, they are super easy, with lots of props, gestures, and other context that helps convey the meaning of the words. As you pick up more and more, you watch more difficult videos. It's amazing how fast you pick up the new language. In about 3 months I learned enough Spanish to give me around 80%+ comprehension of normal conversation, and better comprehension if the person spoke slowly and clearly. Don't count out learning a new language, as it is a lot easier than you might think if your only experience is with traditional methods.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 points 10 minutes ago

What languages can you speak?

[–] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 15 points 1 hour ago

You could always start by teaching English in another country. I recall that it pays quite well and is in demand in many countries. The requirements are also very low.

As for learning another language. You get better at it when you're around it constantly.

[–] CallMeAl@piefed.zip 1 points 29 minutes ago

If you have skills that are in demand in a particular country then there will be a path to residency and possibly citizenship. Many trades are in demand in many places. In some places the demand is so high you can get by speaking English. There may even be incentives offered to people with qualifying skills to move there, like low or no income tax.

[–] agentTeiko@piefed.social 9 points 1 hour ago

I mean the first step is just getting a job offer in any country you go to. Then you just go through the immigration process. Expected to have about 30k on hand to help with the immigration process. There are also a lot of Expat services that help walk you through the process. Just have to search expat and the location you want.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 hour ago

Australia and New Zealand have a points based immigration system that you can check online. That would be the first place I'd look.

[–] Evil_Incarnate@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

If you can get an employer to sponsor you, Europe is nice. In the Nordics if you stick to a capital city, you should have no problem using english for almost anything, and for everything else, there are translation apps.

A social worker would probably have to learn the local language anywhere they go, it's a less transferable profession imo.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 5 points 1 hour ago

You’d make it more or less anywhere. At least here in Sweden, English has been a core subject since 1952/1953. That’s over 70 years of mandatory English education.

Some people struggle a little because they never used it, but as a foreigner, usually you end up struggling to speak anything but English. Lots of immigrants complain that they can’t learn Swedish because the moment someone clocks that they’re not a native speaker, they switch to English.

[–] Pman@lemmy.org 2 points 1 hour ago

If you don't have any savings it will be harder but you and your wife may want to try Ireland or the UK for English language jobs, Canada, New Zealand, and Australia work as well but the cost of living may go up a bit at first. If you are in the US Canada would probably be the easiest and cheapest to move to. If you are able to sit through the ESL equivalent for the respective country's language the whole world is your oyster, just see which countries have more open immigration policies and fewer human/civil rights violations that has low unemployment that you are interested in moving to for work, south Korea has a program for people to teach English and while that may not be a long term thing you don't need to speak any Korean when you get there from what I remember.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org -3 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

without going through the immigration and naturalization process there.

But why do you want it all without normal processes?

You say you are the most normal American. So the normal way is the way for you.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 48 minutes ago

But why do you want it all without normal processes?

You're missing the point. Plenty of Americans do have ancestry that allows them to claim citizenship (and therefore easily immigrate) somewhere or another, so the first thing an American trying to immigrate will be told is to check for that. Making it clear they can't do that is important so they can get advice they can actually use.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 14 points 1 hour ago

That's not what they said. You ignored the beginning of the sentence.

[–] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo -4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Its because their concept of immigration is sitting in Mexico waiting for 20 years to be allowed into the US finally.

And because of American Exceptionalism, they expect to be an exception.

That and within the US, there are loopholes and gotchas you can use to get a visa faster.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

We are at least 3rd generation Americans, and do not have the right to claim citizenship in any other country without going through the immigration and naturalization process there.

I read this as "We'd have to go through a lengthy bureaucratic process since we do not have citizenship claims anywhere else, so given this fact, how should we go about moving abroad?"