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[–] KrupskayaPraxis@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Just as conservative as Fidesz but pro-EU and pro-Ukraine so even shittier.

God I miss the People's Republic

[–] Coco0330@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 18 minutes ago* (last edited 18 minutes ago)

But more “centrist” also. (Still nationalist, populist and conservative btw also the leader used to be apart of Fidesz).

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

What are the chances that at least now Hungary won't be Mossad central in Europe anymore? One of the absolute worst aspects of the Orban government was how incredibly deep its ties to the Zionist entity were.

It remains to be seen how impactful this election will be on EU Ukraine policy. My guess is not very. The EU was already ignoring Hungary in most decisions it was making.

Hungary saying ok to more weapons and money for Ukraine might not change much, because Europe has very little left to give in terms of weapons anyway, and there were more countries than just Hungary opposed to some of the most stupid schemes for destroying Europe's financial credibility just to give Narcoführer Zelensky a few more tens of billions.

And either way, none of that would change the trajectory in Ukraine, just add a few more months to the conflict.

A new government is also not going to change the objective fact that Hungary has energy needs that only Russia can fulfill. And with the whole Hormuz crisis it's actually more likely that Europe will have to go back to Russia to ask for energy.

We'll see how things play out but i don't expect too much to change. It just unfortunately emboldens Brussels now that they see yet again that they can successfully influence elections to stop/get rid of governments insufficiently subservient to them.

[–] Maeve@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 minutes ago

Wondering if/when lib working class becomes disillusioned?

[–] demeritum@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 7 minutes ago

Hungary might adopt the euro, and Slovakia will be targeted next. Libs were already cheering "one more to go". Anyway as you said it only will lead to more EU "overstepping".

[–] demeritum@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 4 hours ago

Well he is more pro-EU and pro-Ukraine so all libs are cheering and hollering.

[–] TheFermentalist@reddthat.com 21 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Excuse me! The replacement is slightly less right wing!

[–] LeninZedong@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 6 hours ago

This is basically how capitalist electoral systems work when the slightly left opposition tries to advertise themselves.

[–] SlayGuevara@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah but have you heard he is not Orban so libs are celebrating as if Jesus himself has returned

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 40 minutes ago (1 children)

Do they not realize how contradictory their narratives are? If Orban was so authoritarian and was "destroying democracy" for over a decade, how come he was able to be voted out so easily? Was he just that incompetent that he was unable to properly rig the system during all those years in power? If "authoritarian" leaders rely on "populism" to maintain power and win elections, then are they really undemocratic? Is that not what every democratic leader should do? Have a political agenda that is popular and allows them to be re-elected? What makes Orban so different from other supposedly "democratic" European leaders with approval ratings of 30% or lower? Liberals' whole ideological framework is incoherent. No material analysis whatsoever about why he actually lost and how this loss fits into the theory that he was supposedly this uniquely dangerous authoritarian, rather than just another right wing bourgeois politician?

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 20 minutes ago

You don't seem to get it. Orban is like Voldemort, Magyar is like Harry Potter and voting is like destroying the horcruxes. Hope that helps. 👍

[–] LeninZedong@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 7 hours ago

"But they are friendly towards the EU" said the western liberal.

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

And get this, ex-Fidesz, but now Tisza, a more 'moderate' offshoot of Fidesz.

Now what does one think of these 'con-turned libs'?

Well, one can easily as have seen by precedent there are 'lib-turned cons'

It was formed in 1988 under the name of Alliance of Young Democrats (Fiatal Demokraták Szövetsége, with the acronym FIDESZ) as a centre-left liberal activist movement that opposed the ruling Marxist–Leninist government. It was registered as a political party in 1990, with Orbán as its leader.

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