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Fortunately liberalism isn't inevitable either.

Fuck the Epstein Atlantic.

like dominos

He's not actually very liberal from what I'm reading. He's pro EU and not a Putin puppet but other than that his policies aren't all that different from Orban's. He was even in Fidesz until a few years ago.

I wonder if there will be much improvement for the LGBTQ community there.

But at least the Ukrainian payments stalemate is broken.

If I were to Americanize it: This is essentially if Ted Cruz, or better yet Chris Christie, beat Donald Trump in the general election. Undeniably a good thing as it'd mean no more Trump and it's kinda humilating for him.

But it means... yeah. One of them at the helm.

I'm really happy that Hungarians got their wannabe president-for-life kicked out peacefully. :)

Regarding Russia - Putin's popularity is in a clear downward dive, but a dive from very high altitude (he has built a formidable propaganda machinery and brainwashed people severely) so it will take time. His regime currently has almost full control of Internet use in Russia, so the only channels which can operate freely are VPN tunnels to services hosted abroad (Telegram being most popular). I hope self-organizing mesh networks will also offer a challenge in cities, but that remains to be seen.

Sadly, unlike Orban, Putin has also rebuilt the system so that he can order arbitrary violence (e.g. poisonings). As a result, most likely in Russia, when time comes, it will be bloody. But there's a positive thing about Putin: he's old and might just die one day (or touch the wrong door handle without gloves, if others near him decide he's too old), opening an avenue for peaceful change.

Trump will be kicked out, I'm 95% sure of that. But Americans will have to rethink the role and authority of the president quite soon after that. And I mean limiting it.

For some of the people here who are going to yell out "but liberalism is bad and should die anyway!"

I've posted several comments in this thread, but I'll do one top level comment now, not directed at anyone in particular.

Liberal in this instance means socially progressive. Illiberalism as Orban called it, was about stopping the "liberal gay agenda". This is from American politics, where conservatives have started calling all progressives liberals. It has caught on in at least some Eastern European countries because our far-right leaders love mimicking the American far right Republican party. Putin is also spreading this shit, I've got a link somewhere to one of his quotes about liberalism destroying nations through "multiculturalism" or whatever. Essentially "liberals import the blacks and they destroy everything".

Illiberalism in this instance doesn't mean getting rid of the market economy or electoral system (necessarily). It means being bigoted.

Boy is this lively. I certainly have my concerns as Magyar is former Fidez and of a Minister Portfolio and by all accounts is very much a conservative politician.

But as far as EU policy is concerned his win is likely to finally get Hungry to be in line with the rest of Erouope.

Also remember Trump sent Vance over to try and election campaign against him so that tells you how the people of Hungry feel about that.

All and all consider this winning a battle but the war continues

Look, fuck Orban, but y'all aren't even waiting to see how Magyar pans out, before hailing a new era. Fascism and anti-fascism aren't just like a Zeitgeist or something. They require concrete actions. Not understanding this means that elections will just keep bringing you back to fascism.

Oh boy does that headline have nothing to do with the article. The article does a good job of explaining all the hard work Magyar did, but it is a bit silly to suggest that it is a temple for what could be done in Russia. For example, it does not lay out how a candidate can avoid all the tripping hazard windowsills that litter the Russian halls of power.

Wouldn't that require actual elections? Russia does not have that.

It's beyond me that any modern democracy would even allow someone be PM/President for 16 years in the first place, and then allow them to run again. For all that's fucked with America rn, that one they've done right (for now).

Why the reluctance to call a fascist a fascist?