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[–] lithiumground@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Majority Ukrainian are pro Israel but at the same time blame Russia as occupier

[–] voaw@lemmy.world -3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I mean Zelensky is a big fan and supporter of Israel. And also a fascist dictator who has shut down news outlets, banned political parties, and cancelled elections in Ukraine. So this tracks. Although not sure what these means for all the out and proud Bandera-worshipping Nazis in the Ukrainian government and armed forces. They’re probably immune because they’re basically Zelensky’s secret police who, among other things, slaughter ethnic Russians in the Donbas, abduct men off the streets for forced conscription, and murder Ukrainian leftists and socialists who engage in activism against the Zelensky regime.

[–] liuther9@lemmy.world -2 points 7 hours ago

Yeah he is an asshole who pretends to be good. Hate this kind of people the most

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago (28 children)

Why is there need of special law against anti semitism? anti semitism is NOT different from any other kind of bigotry.

The way western countries engage in jewish exceptionalism like this is one of the major reason Israel has audacity to carry out its crimes, not to mention how these laws will be misused against pro palestine protestors.

[–] liuther9@lemmy.world -3 points 7 hours ago

Easy. He is pro israel. Pro genocide. Pro nazi. He must die

[–] perestroika@slrpnk.net 16 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

This is not a special law against antisemitism. This is a generic law against incitement of hate and discrimination, with more serious punishments if violence is done, or if a group does it, or if serious consequences happen.

They added the word "anti-semitism" to the list of forbidden forms of incitement (it already forbade inciting ethnic and religous hate).

The Israeli newspaper makes it sound special, but it really is not.

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

They added the word “anti-semitism” to the list of forbidden forms of incitement.

Are there any other hate crimes regarding specific religion in that list?

[–] perestroika@slrpnk.net 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Nope. That makes it somewhat odd.

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

yup, thanks for the context tho.

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[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Article is light on details, does this include criticism of the state of Israel or of Judaism as a religion or is it only racist speech against people with Semitic ancestry?

[–] perestroika@slrpnk.net 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Details can be found here:

Alteration: https://zakon.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/2037-IX

Paragraph one of Part One of Article 161 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine (Vidomosti Verkhovnoi Rada of Ukraine, 2001, No. 25-26, p. 131) shall be supplemented with the words "manifestations of anti-Semitism" after the words "honor and dignity".

Code: https://zakon.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/2341-14#Text

They upgraded paragraph 161 of the criminal code of Ukraine. It forbids discrimination, specifies punishments for deliberately inciting hate, and more severe punishments if the inciter also does violence or if the incitement leads to severe consequences.

Notably, so far it did not contain the word "antisemitism" and inciting hate against Jewish people was considered either as inciting ethnic, national or religious hate, according to the context. Now antisemitism is mentioned. No protected group is given more protection. I'm not sure if I agree with the wording (how does antisemitism differ from what was already forbidden?). But it's fairly standard text for an average European country.

Article 161. Violation of the equality of citizens depending on their racial, national, regional affiliation, religious beliefs, disability and on other grounds

  1. Intentional actions aimed at inciting national, regional, racial or religious enmity and hatred, at humiliating national honor and dignity, or insulting the feelings of citizens in connection with their religious beliefs, as well as direct or indirect restriction of the rights or establishment of direct or indirect privileges of citizens on the grounds of race, skin color, political, religious and other beliefs, gender, disability, ethnic and social origin, property status, place of residence, on language or other grounds -

shall be punishable by a fine of two hundred to five hundred non-taxable minimum incomes of citizens or restriction of liberty for a term of up to five years, or imprisonment for a term of up to three years, with deprivation of the right to hold certain positions or engage in certain activities for a term of up to three years or without it.

  1. The same actions, combined with violence, fraud or threats, as well as committed by an official, -

shall be punished by a fine of five hundred to one thousand tax-free minimum incomes of citizens or by imprisonment for a term of two to five years, with or without deprivation of the right to hold certain positions or engage in certain activities for a term of up to three years.

  1. The actions provided for in parts one or two of this article, which were committed by an organized group of persons or caused grave consequences, -

shall be punished by imprisonment for a term of five to eight years.

Note. In this article, regional affiliation should be understood as a person's affiliation by birth or residence to a region - part of the territory of Ukraine or a territory of compact settlement of Ukrainians outside the territory of Ukraine - that differs from other territories by a number of historical, geographical, linguistic and other features.

[–] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

And it's eastern Europe, so it's not like it's going to be hard to find the latter.

Some of these comments seem to be imagining the state of tolerance is the same as in the West proper.

[–] Fishnoodle@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't fucking appease Zionist trash

[–] liuther9@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago

I mean he always did. Russians despite that they are shitty, they knew the truth. And before dumb people jump into conclusions, bad guy can tell the truth about other bad guys too. Though if we compare them, Israel is devilish psycho nazi country and Russia is closer to mafia

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There are orthodox jews worldwide that speak out loudly against the actions of Israel. I wonder if these jews could get jailed for antisemitism. I'm sure it's already possible in the UK.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 5 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I wonder if those Orthodox Jews are ever the victims of bigotry because people just assume they are for all of Israel's actions.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Not just bigotry, they are also getting killed: Antisemitic Attacks in 2025 Caused Highest Number of Deaths in 30 Years, Study Finds.

Last year saw the highest level of deadly violence against Jews around the world in over three decades, with 20 people killed ...

... a spike that began following the Hamas-led Oct. 7, 2023, attack and Israel’s subsequent war in Gaza ...

Almost all of this increased "antisemitism" comes from hate towards Israel.

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder how anti semitism is a different kind of bigotry than other bigotries, why do you need special law for this

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Well yes but that's not what AmidFuror was talking about.

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

They are trying to make sense of special laws for certain ethnoreligion, thats what they are talking about

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 0 points 22 hours ago

Their comment has nothing to do with any laws.

[–] magnue@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Very very bad

[–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Somebody better tell the Azov battalion to watch their P's and Q's.

[–] TheAlbacor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Love that some other Nazis down voted this.

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