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[–] fonix232@fedia.io 94 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Look, I've met my fair share of psychotic 12 year olds, including ones that were already killing and skinning squirrels and cats, but LIFE SENTENCE? Any 12 year old committing a crime that is worthy of a life sentence requires serious psychological help, not being thrown in prison...

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 35 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

In civilized countries, a "life" sentence is actually just contingent on rehabilitation.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 15 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

They should probably rename it, then.

[–] Nighed@feddit.uk 14 points 3 weeks ago

The idea is that they can keep you for life if you are never safe to release.

[–] Palerider@feddit.uk 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

"Sort your shit out" sentence?

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 3 weeks ago

Isn't that a "His Majesty's Pleasure"?

[–] needanke@feddit.org 4 points 3 weeks ago

You gotta change your life man - sentence?

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

A life sentence here you become eligible for parole in 10-25 years depending on the crime. It does not mean you will be granted it though, and you can remain in prison your whole life. You also remain on parole your entire life if granted.

There's no life without parole here.

[–] rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Mostly a fear tactic, would be surprising to see the state house and feed an inmate for 60+ years of life expectancy.

[–] kunaltyagi@programming.dev 5 points 3 weeks ago

Fear tactics don't work. Else we would have no criminals serving life sentences

[–] backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 3 points 3 weeks ago

The US does. Even if not fixed life it’ll happily pay for egregiously long sentences that surpass the threat of the crime, stack and “enhance” charges to create longer sentences, and uses probation & parole like a revolving door to find new ways to send people back for violations often over personal vice rather than violence in their community. The part of the population that screams loudest against funding food/healthcare/living programs for their non-criminal neighbors are also the ones who love this system, but they won’t fund any part of it that would teach skills or provide education. They lost their shit when Biden allowed inmates to get Pell grants and colleges sought to offer degrees to inmates. Can’t have your constitutionally allowed slave force enlighten their way out of the cycle.

[–] dellhiver@sh.itjust.works 58 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

He looks like a movie villain announcing the next Hunger Games.

[–] pipe01@programming.dev 41 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Bristlecone@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wow. Is the modern day literally just a fucking joke by the universe or some shit?

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago

"Are you not entertained???"

[–] RaoulDuke25@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

His jacket looks like it fits a 12 year old

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 52 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Oof, this is the shithole maga wants to model itself on? Slavery.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

well they previously wanted to model themselves on Hungary, but then their leading man lost.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I thought they were going for Argentina

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 3 weeks ago

It's actually Saudi Arabia.

[–] crandlecan@mander.xyz 29 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] Mudman@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Depressed smoking Jesus describes recent world events quite well.

[–] ol_capt_joe@piefed.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah dude El Salvador is fucked

[–] amateurcrastinator@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

El Salvador sounds like a lovely country!

[–] rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago

Problem is... it's better now than it was before.

[–] tixnou@feddit.cl 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah!! I would sure love to live in an alt-right narco-state that wants to imprison everybody for some reason

[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 19 points 3 weeks ago

The country with the fascist extermination camps that accept anyone for money without any possible chance of appeal extends their laws to start exterminating children?

Who could have possibly seen this coming?

[–] yoyoyopo5@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

Just imprison everyone already. Surely that will fix every possible problem.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Turns out the UK does this, but it's usually "At His Majesty's Pleasure". Some people like Robert Thompson were released shortly after reaching adulthood

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

The term is used to describe detention in prison for an indefinite length of time;[3] a judge may rule that a person be "detained at His Majesty's pleasure" for serious offences or based on a successful insanity defence.[4] This is sometimes used where there is a great risk of re-offending. However, it is most often used for juvenile offenders, usually as a substitute for life sentencing (which might be much longer for youthful offenders). For example, section 259 of the Sentencing Act 2020 (which applies to England and Wales) states, "where [...] a person convicted of murder, or any other offence the sentence for which is fixed by law as life imprisonment, and the person appears to the court to have been aged under 18 at the time the offence was committed. The court must sentence the offender to be detained during Her Majesty's pleasure."[5]

Prisoners held at His Majesty's pleasure are periodically reviewed to determine whether their sentence can be deemed complete; although this power traditionally rested with the monarch, such reviews are now made in the name of the monarch, on the advice of government officials — the Secretary of State for Justice in England and Wales, for instance. Minimum terms are also set, before which the prisoner cannot be released; in England and Wales, these were originally set by the Home Secretary, but, since 30 November 2000, have been set by the trial judge.[6] Prisoners' sentences are typically deemed to be complete when the reviewing body is "satisfied that there has been a significant change in the offender's attitude and behaviour".[6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At_His_Majesty%27s_pleasure#In_penal_law

It's specifically not life in prison because minors aren't fully responsible for themselves and life from the age of 10 and life from the age of, for example, 55 are completely different things.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 3 weeks ago

I think the James Bulger case is a good one. Robert Thompson got his act together and was released at 18. John Venables has been recalled to prison and remains there.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

same.here in Australia, apparently we can have criminal masterminds who are 12 but cant touch pee pee, or have a beer.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 weeks ago

Once you take away the rights of one group, its much easier to take away another ones. The rapist or killer not getting beaten in a prison ensures you dont get beaten in prison after petty crime. At the very least a system like in norway is required that promotes reeducation rather than punishment. Of course this isnt a comment about el salvador because they are waaay past this but more of a warning to nations with some remaining human rights(mainly europe at this point...)

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Why not the death penalty?! /s

[–] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Because it is a waste of life... that 12 year old will serve the state as a labourer. We're talking cleaning toilets, doing construction, with overseers and all.

It's free real estate.

[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Because slavery is more profitable.

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

If that Idi Amin right now does more, country should be renamed El Matador.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Not like they pay any upkeep for them