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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 68 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

By design...

Bibi doesn't want peace, he wants constant war because that's the only thing keeping him in office and out of prison.

trump also wants to stay in office and put of prison, so he's gonna follow what's working for Bibi.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

There's an even wider material explanation. Israel's territorial ambitions are only threatened by the resources coming from Iran. A moderate Iran would have sanctions lifted and would generate much more real reosiurces than today. Its economy grew 7% per year during the partial reprieve of the JCPOA. An extremist regime means more sanctions, more repression and therefore as little resources as possible spared for resisting Iarael's territorial gains. And that's in the in the interest of a lot of Israelis.

[–] zedgeist@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)
[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 55 points 3 weeks ago
[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I skimmed the article and did not find one name of a moderate who was killed...anybody? Is this metaphorical as in "discredited" the moderates?

[–] belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It's more like hardliners being replaced with even harder hardliners, who often have personal reasons to be hardliners. Mojtaba Khamenei witnessed his Wife and daughter being murdered in an airstrike. He is not going to be thrilled about the US

[–] gigachad@piefed.social 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You are speaking of harderliners aren't you

[–] Eric@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

No, it is too late and the hardestliners have seized power

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

And this is in comparison to the more moderate hardliners who killed ~40,000 protestors a few months back?

[–] theolodis@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

As far as I am aware of, the estimations range from 6500 to about 36k, but no serious source I've seen so far mentioned 40k. Do you mind sharing where you got that number from?

Lower end (german platform) https://www.statista.com/statistics/1659655/iran-number-of-fatalities-during-the-anti-government-protests/

Higher end (Saudi funded, supports the crown prince in exile) https://www.iranintl.com/en/202601255198

[–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

These people would have killed 50k

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think desire or intent was the limiting factor in the 40k number

[–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago

They were moderates

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

And his father.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 weeks ago

I think so. The first link suggests it would have more info on that topic, but it doesn't.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Same playbook bibi ran in Palestine, no ones more responsible for the rise of Hamas then him.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 0 points 3 weeks ago

Except Hillary Clinton (/s btw 🤪)

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago
[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I remember when Trump said "yeah we thought of ppl we wanted for regime change but we killed them". Like wtf?

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Or how he keeps hinting how they are working with someone they consider more reasonable, but can't tell us who because Israel will kill them.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

Crazy how that's a legit possibility. Not even "oh that's conspiracy" talk.

See? He ams smat.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

How else would you perpetuate a war against a people.