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[–] pasdechance@jlai.lu 44 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The Mistral team is just as sketchy as the other AI folks, they're former Google and Meta employees. I want to believe they won't be like Altman or Amodei. But they are following the same playbook: in debt to investors, making promises (saying their data centre will find cures to diabetes and cancer), pirating books, and lobbying the gov't to pay a one-time penalty to avoid future litigation in plagiarism cases...

Still, fingers crossed!

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 35 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They are under the EU AI act, so that’s something.

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Too bad the EU is demolishing the AI Act to appease Trump.

And anyway all other vendors would be under the EU AI Act in the EU market.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

By the end of Trump, it's doubtful anybody will be doing stuff to appease him.

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

By the end of Trump we should be happy if there is anybody left anywhere with significant power to even think to have a leverage against anyone else.

Even OPEC is coming apart.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 2 days ago

Maybe the US will suffer greatly and the rest of the world have to come off of the US addiction, but the world might actually be brighter afterwards.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 3 days ago

Money gets to anybody's head, European, Asian, or USAian.

[–] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 22 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I use mistral, and have been happily paying for it the past 3 months. It's more than good enough for my needs and the only AI company I trust with my data.

Even used their coding assistant to vibe code some simple apps for my personal usage recently and was pleasantly suprised.

[–] BB84@mander.xyz 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If you would rather not trust any AI company with your data, consider heading to !localllama@sh.itjust.works where self-hosted LLM are discussed!

[–] vatlark@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Mistral open sources a lot of their models.

[–] apoisel@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Le Chat and Mistral Vibe are very good products. I use Vibe on a daily basis. Works very well with my style (relatively small iterative steps, very exact prompts) and it's often faster than the competition.

[–] coredev@programming.dev 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I can only agree. I choosed Mistral because EU, I stayed because pretty damn good.

My style too.

A comment on HN pointed to BullshitBench. Seems like small steps is an especially good idea.

[–] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

Mistral improved by a lot.

[–] baines@piefed.social 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

lol at people sharding for AI flavors

stupid β€˜vibes’ all the way down

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 5 days ago

what, are you not excited for the epic new trustworthy european startup Le Nexus du Tourment?

[–] BB84@mander.xyz 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Is there a use case where Mistral still beat Qwen or Gemma? If you're using Mistral, which model and what do you use it for?

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 4 points 5 days ago

qwen suck in Danish. Much better with Mistral.

[–] NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm using it, all I know is it's called "Le Chat", is that what's meant by model? - as you can tell I'm not very technical.

I use it for generic simple queries. No idea how it compares with the others as I've not used them. I'm using it, as the title suggests "they're not American*

[–] BB84@mander.xyz 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I see. Mistral was the favorite in self-hosted LLM circles back in 2023-2024 but general opinion is that they have since been far surpassed by Chinese and American models, hence my question.

Good to know they've found a market with their online offering.

[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Depends on what you are looking for. Mistral's strong suite is that it can use most, if not all European languages. Also Mistral's basic architecture is much more (cost & energy) effective due to the use of their use of seperate expert nodes iirc.

I was a paying customer of Mistral for about a year, it's quiet good... but nevertheless I moved to Google this month. Gemini is - at least in my experience - simply oh so much better...