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[–] realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

One of the most accurate descriptions of this entire beef.

Steam does nothing and just keeps winning.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it doesn't just do nothing, it sticks to its core idea : we can't do as much as the community can when it comes to making games, how do we maximise the community's possible output?

People love to shit on valve working on lootboxes, but I was there to see how it developed. It was there as part of a way of getting money back to the people making stuff, which is why a shitload of the TF2 hats came from the community and steam workshop. The system came from a left wing greek economist, before , you know, he BECAME Minister of Finance for greece (for half a year)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yanis_Varoufakis

This is why they have steam OS, steam greenlight, SFM, etc etc.

Valve doesn't make games anymore, because they know hobbyists can make shitloads of more games than them, they need a platform to shove them into.

Also, the other goal is to improve and extend the PC gaming space, which is why they are working on SteamOS, the deck, and all the other shit they are working on. Because of the work they put into making steam work to make game distrobution better than piracy (LITERALLY said by Gabe), PC releases became synonymous with "Steam", which is why whenever you have a game announcement, you get "New game : Available on (XboxLogo : PS5Logo : SteamLogo)"

Valve is doing stuff. Just not, you know, making HL3 or nothing.

[–] hayvan@piefed.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In a service business, if you do things right, people think you're doing nothing.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] kieron115@startrek.website 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

glad i'm not the only one who caught that

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's probably my favorite depiction of god in any media. Obviously if you think about it the whole premise falls apart and he's a huge dick but in the context of the episode it's pretty cool beans

[–] kieron115@startrek.website -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

haha yeah, he/it was kind of a dick

Bender: You know, I was God once.

God: Yes, I saw. You were doing well until everyone died.

[–] network_switch@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

People constantly dooming steam are punching themselves in the face instead of pushing for anything better. If they wanted a more competitive market do two things. Buy games on other storefronts. They exist. There have been digital storefronts since before Steam. Second is direct your complaining to competitors to improve their services. Like go complain on every EGS press release for Linux support and a gamepad friendly interface. Something equivalent to Steam input and remote play that isn't using third party software like Sunshine/Moonlight. Something like steam curators and other social features. User reviews. The complainers of Steam are pretty much campaigning for Steam to be worse so others can compete without having to improve as much

[–] UPGRAYEDD@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

Digital markets are naturally monopolistic. If there are no other barriers in a market, a single solution will rise to the top. Once it has gained enough market share, the "network effect" and incumbancy are often enough to keep it in power, even if the product degrades. Leaving steam is difficult, even when a better solution exists ( like gog) due to separated game libraries and friend groups.

See the following examples: Amazon, facebook, youtube, google, instagram, X

Amazon has many examples of enshitification. Higher prices, worse search, paid promotion of products etc.

Facebook adds, social experimentation and propaganda machine.

Youtube removes the dislike button, more advertisements and recommendation algorithm pushing conspiracy theories.

Hell. Here we are, a small group of people who left reddit because of their anti consumer policies. But lemmy is still no competition, and getting smaller by the day.

Markets are not the solution to monopoly, they are the creator. Its the natural end state of competition.

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

If Steam is accused of abusing their position, then it’s not the same, like them being accused of enforcing price parity, while they take a higher cut than EGS, so that those same games, sold on EGS, can’t be sold for cheaper

[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

They don’t mandate price parity on other platforms. They mandate that people selling steam keys on different storefronts match price with the steam store. Which is to say, they allow people to distribute through steam’s infrastructure, without paying steam’s vendor fee, but not for a lower price.

Publishers can absolutely choose to sell for cheaper on EGS(or any other distribution platform for that matter), that they generally don’t is not due to some valve policy.

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It wasn’t what the accusation was about. The accusation was about price parity on other platforms. The steam keys thing is something else.