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prices that have raised eyebrows among some gamers.
WTF?
Only those that know nothing about the features and tech internal.
price is a steal.
With prices of hardware in general world-wide (non-ram related) we're lucky this isn't $120US or $150US
Switch 2 Joycon's are the same price for fuck sakes...
Xbox Elite Wireless Controller is more expensive, and can't do the things this controller can do.
Also Xbox controllers have garbage ass build quality. Valve seems to make pretty solid hardware. The only one I see as comparable is the PS5 dualsense controller, but it's still missing some things like the extra buttons. It has a touchpad, but just one, and it's not optimally placed, imho.
I have serious stick drift on Dualsense controllers after using them on and off for just a year. 3 controllers, all with the same issue.
Last year my wife picked up a pair of regular Xbox pads for us to use when playing couch co-ops over Sunshine/Moonlight. When the pricing for the new Steam controller was announced, she went back and had a look at what she paid. They've gone up in price and are currently £80.
Each.
For an extra £5 you get haptics, touch pads, FAR better stick technology, and all in a package that's as repairable as it can be.
Yeah, £85 is a fucking bargain at this point.
we’re lucky this isn’t $120US
£85 GBP is pretty much $120 USD (it's $114).
And that's very much what the yanks will pay for it. American prices are always before taxes.
Not everyone is in us. 99 euro no matter how reasonable prices a lot of Germans out
Yeah, but is it really that much more expensive than other controllers? PS5 Dual Sense is 79€. Xbox Series X/S is 65€ with the Elite 2 at 200€. Considering the additional features of the Steam controller and current development of hardware prices, the pricing seems reasonable.
Edit: I should add, those are recommended retail prices (UVP), and the actual prices from individual stores can be lower.
Every outlet that you are seeing run a headline about the Steam Controller being in someway 'controversial' or 'has a problem' or 'may be divisive' ...
I contend that this is an anti-marketing campaign, being run by basically, potentially, the entire AAA gaming industry that isn't Valve.
Nearly every major AAA game company is currently imploding right now.
Except Valve.
Because Valve is privately held and owned, it doesn't have a board of investors to answer to, to constantly juice next quarter profits for.
It doesn't have a gaggle of people who sit on multiple corporate boards simultaneously, who sit on the boards of industry lobbying groups, who sit on the boards of astroturfed 'consumer rights' groups.
These people all know each other, or in some cases literally are the same people.
I of course cannot prove this conclusively, but just... look around.
This is nuts, the number of media outlets going with a non positive angle, in the headline... of a product launch.
Also consider that many of Valve's direct competition has extensive, direct ties to the AI bubble insano-mania, both hardware and software companies.
... Its not normal to have so many different outlets have such a standardized general framing of ... a video game controller launch.
This is what a retired ex corpo ex MSFT employee such as myself would describe as sus.
You know, I don‘t think negative reception with the press means there is a smear campaign going on by default. Maybe they simply chose that headline because drama sells.
But it is interesting if you compare it to their headlines about the Switch 2 a year ago. A lot of sugar coating like „feature packed“ with a vague „but…“ at the end to address Nintendo‘s widely unpopular price policy. That‘s the narrative many tech journalists chose to go with prior to the launch at the time.
For one reason or another a lot of them seem biased to me.
So who's paying for this hit piece?
Its a normal article with a click bait title. The review seemed to lean on the positive.
Grand total it has 4 extra buttons, 2 capacitive strips, 2 touchpads, gyro, and the fancy magnetic joysticks. $100 did not surprise me at all.
Of course, if you don't care about any of those features, it isn't the best deal, in the same way that a luxury sports car makes for a shit commuter vehicle. Not that the steam controller is "luxury" but like, if you don't want the extra features then the higher price probably isn't worth it. That doesn't make it overpriced, it means you aren't the target audience.
Full disclosure. I'm that target audience. I'm already mentally mapping extra buttons to the left touchpad and thinking about setting the back buttons to my armored core's shoulder weapons.
It was a breath of fresh air to see Valve employees on interviews clearly stating "it does and has all these things, if you don't want or need them, don't buy it." Not in the usual corporate entitlement way, but actually a pro consumer rights POV. They are not gonna pressure everyone and their grandmother to buy one, they made a premium tool for their steam machine and are aware of it.
It also has a ton of premade layouts already available on launch, as it has feature parity with the steam deck and those profiles will work with the sc.
the magnetic sticks are worth the extra cost so there will be no stick drift
The fancy joysticks is the only thing I might actually want.
Since nobody has made a controller as reliable as the old wired 360 controller and you can;t get that anymore I'd really like something less prone to stick drift if you give it a funny look.
I'm more than willing to pay a premium for a PC controller that isn't going to have stick drift and will work a few years down the line. God knows how many xbox controllers I've gone through.
I trust Valve, I've used their product and played their games for decades and they've never let me down. they've made gaming on linux accessible and now extremely easy to set up and get going. $100 for a controller I will pay for.
I still don't get the controversy.
Are you an avid Touchpad user on the Deck or on the OG Steam Controller? Buy this.
Do you just want a controller for your PC? Buy an Xbox, PS or Third party.
People think they have to buy it for some reason, they just can't fathom not being the target audience.
I like it. But if it can’t work as a standard gamepad without Steam then it’s not worth it for me.
I don’t need the fancy features, but standard compatibility like an xbox controller (without third party tools).
Wait, what? It doesn't work with non-steam games?
It works with non-steam games and the trackpad might even work without steam on Linux, but it will most certainly not work on Windows without Steam and if you want to customize your buttons with steam input, you need to launch the game through steam, which is able to launch non-steam binaries.
I'm so pissed (at myself), I thought this was going to be delayed indefinitely like the steam machine so I broke down and bought an xbox elite controller a month ago. That stupid controller was 250 bucks after tax and it doesn't have half the features the steam controller does and its only 90 dollars.
I really should have been more patient.
Reselling might be something to consider. Since it's so new you might get a reasonable amount back, and that could help you justify getting this one instead 👍
Damn, you really should have. The controller isn't affected by the RAMpocalypse, so people have been suspecting this would end up being released first since the delay was announced. I'm waiting for the Frame most of all, so I'll take your comment as a reminder to not break down and buy another headset early.
Its like a few dollars more than other controllers with double the features and quality. What are people complaining about? 85 for something that'll last years and give you 1000s of hours of enjoyment is a no brainer
The only thing stopping me from buying the new Steam Controller is all of the original Steam Controllers I have that are all still working fine.
I feel burned by the first one, but I know it's a skill/learning curve issuie. I may grab one of the new ones but I'd like to play with one first.