what is this referring to, specifically?
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GrapheneOS would be great, if it would just support 1000x the hardware it does now. With the extremely limited hardware it does support it's practically as good as useless for the vast majority of Android users
I'd switch tomorrow, would if I could
Most hardware doesn't support the fundamental security requirements of GrapheneOS, so that will never happen.
Look into things like /e/OS or Nothing Phone on the Android side, and the various Linux options (Jellyfish OS is, I think, the most advanced).
Root n ROM I guess
I consider myself pretty computer savvy but phones have always pissed me off. I got a Galaxy S22 Ultra because I wanted stylus and high refresh rate, but I consistently regret giving Samsung my business.
I have the SM-S908U1, what are realistically my best options here? I can't really afford an upgrade right now.
Please consider donating to PostmarketOS to build up a pure mobile Linux alternative that is completely free of Google's influence. It's the best option we have.
GrapheneOS doesn't give a fuck
Really glad I decided to switch to GrapheneOS. My next phone will be a Motorola for sure.
I would be so happy if the phone they release with graphene is the Razr, honestly might start work on it myself.
So what do we do when they start making it harder and harder to install graphene?
Getting a motorola cause they explicitly will be supporting GrapheneOS.
But all of that is just a stepping stone. As soon as I deem linux phones to be usable as a daily driver for me, I won't look back.
Ironic that graphene is developed most for pixel phones
We still don't know anything about the phones' specifications, prices.
If the rest-of-the-world can get its head out of its ass, a fork of AOSP with an open governance and a commitment to opensource and open platform, so that every one benefits from it. You wouldn't need that much from each country to get more resources on that AOSP-bis than Google will ever be able to pour on its homebrew version.
You make a rule that public service can only buy devices using AOSP-bis based systems (or even better: states choose their own AOSP distros) and quickly, Google has no choice but to follow your version, not the other way around.
motorola makes great phone. I remember my 1st Android phone, after years on iOS, was the Moto Z Play. That thing can last a week with light usage, or 3 days with medium usage on a single charge. Also remember those moto mods? Motorola had like speaker mod and even a mini projector that you can just snap on the phone.
They made better phones before Google bought them so they could strip all their patents before dumping the remaining husk on Lenovo for 15% of its previous value.
My tech brothers, how easy is it to install graphene on my pixel 7? Will my banking app (Barclays, UK) still work? Tia
If you have location and mobile data on they're generally less likely to fuss if you do ever have an issue.
super easy and i never had a app not work instantly including bank stuff
Barclays: This app only runs in the owner profile and secure app spawning may have to be disabled
https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compatibility-with-grapheneos/
The installation is super easy - barely an inconvinience. However you need to set up everything on your phone manually - no easy transfer from stock Android afaik.
sign up to a 3rd party password manager on your original device so you will have them available there too
Its so easy with their web installer, takes like 5 minutes. If you go to their website they have a list of bank apps that work. Mine does and no issues. Ive been using Graphene for a couple years and can never go back.
Not sure for that specific app, but I used 4 banking apps without problems. Google wallet does not work so I had to switch to Curve for NFC payments.
I saw Curve being promoted as a replacement. Problem is as they act as a middle man you lose the credit protections normally afforded by your credit card which made me pause again.
It should. My banking apps worked fine. None of them work on a rooted phone but worked absolutely fine on Graphene.
I thought you had to root the phone to install graphene?
Nope, just unlock the bootloader through developer settings connect phone to USB, install through official website and lock the bootloader back. Currently only pixel phones are supported
IIRC, no. You unlock the bootloader to install, re-lock, and enjoy your phone.
You have to unlock the bootloader, Grapheneos doesn't support root on the official builds.
Super easy to install. I don't use any banking app on my phone so can't comment on that.
I did that for my old pixel 7 so my daughter had something to play on. Works great.
I support spreading this message, and fuck Google, but...what's actually happening is they are making harder to install apps, not removing the ability to do so.
That's what they're doing *so far. * I very strongly doubt this is the last time the deal is altered.
After massive pushback. Their original plan was basically full control. It still is, but they'll allow you to install something if you ask nicely first.
The other issue is the timing. They can claim this is for security all they want, but it was announced suspiciously close to the courts ruling that Google needed to open up their ecosystem to other app stores. This is a blatant attempt to keep control of the app ecosystem by forcing devs to go through Google regardless of where they intend to release.
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Google is "only" locking you out of using your phone for 24 hours...
For extra security, let's make it a week. Let's make it a month. Let's make it a year.
Ok? Its still my phone, my hardware, and now I have to wait 24 hours before I can install wahtever I want on the phone that I goddamn paid for with my own goddamn money.
Also, let's not pretend as if they not eventually going to go back to their original plan once the initial backlash dies down and people get used to the new norm.
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Stallman was right. Software absolutely needs to be free.
I am so endlessly angry at this, I actually switched banks because my old bank's app didn't work on a degoogled phone.
This is the kind of action we need to take. Im proud of you for making the change. Taking the time. Making the effort to say nope fuck you and fuck that.
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