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[–] xxam925@lemmy.zip 3 points 51 minutes ago

Same logic for using drugs.

“I can’t afford anything actually nice but I do have 20 bucks.”

Honestly there is a lot more value in a 20 sack though.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 28 minutes ago

Thanks for making that a direct file to a video.

[–] bob@feddit.uk 9 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

a great moment with a barista.

Hahaha. Good one. Literally a great reason to buy independent.

[–] modus@lemmy.world 1 points 42 minutes ago (1 children)

It's worse than that. Obviously he's not talking about the coffee. He doesn't even paint it as good-quality coffee. He's saying people go for the experience of enjoying the coffee in a pleasant environment. He actually believes people go to Starbucks because they like being at Starbucks.

[–] Aaron@lemmy.nz 2 points 15 minutes ago

That used to be their whole shtick, the third place experience. They wanted people to treat Starbucks as where they go when they want to relax or meet with friends, a place outside of their home and work, where the baristas knew their names and would chat and make them feel welcome. Especially a lot of older folks liked that, and would make it part of their routine. Starbucks threw that all away when they went to prioritising drive thru and mobile order/pay systems. It's a shareholder business and this is capitalism. It's either neverending growth or death.

[–] froh42@lemmy.world 1 points 52 minutes ago (1 children)

What the fuck is premium about Starbucks?

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 1 points 24 minutes ago
[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

IDGAF. Why are you buying Starbucks anyway, their coffee is just flavoured, caffeinated sugar water. I don't see a big deal with $9 for a cup of piss. Rich people will pay even more if you tell them some lies about the water being shipped from the Himalayan mountains to make the coffee. Charge them whatever the fuck you want. Rich people ripping off rich people is a win win.

Are people really so addicted to Starbucks that this is a big deal? And there's no better and cheaper coffee?

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 hours ago

I mean, let's be real, how much does a banana even cost Michael? Twelve dollars?

[–] Otakulad@lemmy.world 27 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

They need some way to pay for the year he commuted to Seattle by private jet.

Also, he is the asshole who said to keep raising the prices at Chipotle.

Fuck him. I will drink Folgers (and I do) before I'll drink your shit.

[–] BygoneNeutrino@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I work an a facility next to a few fast food joints, a Japanese restaurant, an Indian restaurant, and a Chipotle. Pretty much the only restaurant we don't order from is Chipotle.

... Chipotle is real restaurant prices for a fastfood experience.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Well it's not $10. Hah! You could excuse any price like that, "well it's not $1 more than the currently listed price" What a deal!!!

[–] Generica@lemmy.world 17 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

A $96-million dollar douche defends a $9 cup of coffee

[–] fishy@lemmy.today 8 points 6 hours ago

This guy is delusional, saying a $9 cup of coffee is affordable has "it's one banana, Michael" energy.

[–] Eric@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 hours ago

A barista would need to serve like 2 coffees to cover their wage

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 43 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

The coffee sucks, the tables are all filled or dirty and sticky, the outside seating is in a parking lot, baking in the sun, the drive through is backed up to the interstate, the food is re-heated trash that costs a fortune, the atmosphere is boring factory produced trash, and the wifi is so slow it's like it doesn't exist.

Why. Why on earth would I go to starbucks

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

People are absolute zombies for it. In the airport, there’s always a line into the concourse for that overpriced burnt shit. There are other coffee and bagel and donut shops mere steps away whose coffee is cheaper and better.

I was in fucking midtown manhattan last week, with amazing coffee shops on every block. Still a line out the door at Starbucks. Like what the fuck, people.

[–] Mpatch@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

And yet they are still making loads of money. Mind you I'd kina hope they start to die so I can get one of their machines for home from liquidation auction.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

They're making so much money that they're still opening Starbuckses across the street from Startbuckses. Make it make sense.

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 3 points 31 minutes ago

The line must go up

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

this has the McDonald's CEO eating vibes all over again.

[–] Redtrax@lemmy.ml 43 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

It's sad to think there are people in the world that think Starbucks coffee is nice.

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 1 points 34 minutes ago

These people mostly like star bucks sugar syrup and pretend it's coffee that they are after

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

The original Starbucks was pretty good and even for a while after they started the franchise they were still a bit above average quality. They're crap now, but that was a slow decline over the last decade. So they can coast on the reputation the original built and rely on their current customers either not ever having had good coffee or not noticing the slow incremental decline.

[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 9 points 6 hours ago

It's "coffee" for people who don't really like coffee and want to drink something warm with cream, sugary syrup and artificial flavoring.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, Starbucks finally has a few places here in Copenhagen, but that was after a few years of simply not getting a hold anywhere; shops that opened, stayed for less than a year, then closed.

The competition here is Joe and the Juice, a local company, and various small privately owned baristas.

Starbucks has some permanent places right now, but they're still not big. Haven't heard many people say positive things about them.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 hours ago

I just want to say your city is awesome. That is all.

[–] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 9 hours ago

I'm in India, and when I was in college, first Starbucks in the city was opened and a few of my friends including me wanted to try it. We all spent 500-600 INR ($4-5) which was a lot. After taking the first sip, we all came to the conclusion that the coffee sold at the college canteen for ₹20 was better than this overpriced slop.

I make coffee at my home for less than a dollar and I love the taste and I love the experience.

[–] tracyspcy@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 hours ago

If he loves this "experience", good for him. Who cares...

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

Starbucks coffee is shite. The main reason many people go there is because of the image of status symbol, especially in many parts of the world. The chain also ruffled feathers here in Ireland for setting up shop everywhere, driving down prices of their coffee to force local cafés to close. Then, when local competitions are gone, Starbucks raise prices to extortionate level. For these reasons, I boycott Starbucks. Thankfully, what Starbucks did in Ireland was nipped in the bud, locals prefer their local cafés.

Besides, countries with older café culture rail stronger on the overgrowth of big coffee chains like Starbucks. For example, the coffee chain in Australia never became popular enough. Because Australians see cafe culture as being more community based, where they chat to neighbours and baristas, a habit picked up from Greek immigrants to Australia long before coffee chains took the world by storm.

[–] TaeKwonDoh@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

I always price my coffee by weight, so making my shit at home is a no brainer, that way if I'm out with friends I can order out with no guilt.

But even then, Michigan's own Biggby Coffee and other local spots make $tarbucks irrelevant.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 21 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Look at the wording- 'premium experience'. He's not selling coffee, he's thinking big picture of the whole experience from the moment you walk in the store. He's not even wrong here. This is good business management- that he's taking charge of everything about the store from the decor, the furniture, the colors, how the employee talks to you, etc. That's all part of the experience.

What's wrong is that people keep going. Most people don't give a fuck about the experience, they just want a tasty coffee. Our economy is based on competition and free choice. If he makes his coffee cost $8 or $9 or $15 or $50 that's his right and his company's right. Just as it is your right to go elsewhere, which you should be doing anyway.

The thing is- IMHO, Starbucks coffee isn't worth anywhere near $9. Here's a challenge- go to Starbucks and order a double espresso shot. Now find a local artisan coffee place, like the type with a chalkboard that says where the beans they're brewing today were grown. And get a double espresso from them also. Compare the two.
What you'll notice about Starbucks is that it's burnt. And that's because it's literally burnt- the typical Starbucks bean is roasted MUCH darker than average, so the resulting coffee flavor is dominated by a burned smoky bitter-ish flavor.
Compare that to your local artisan coffee place- you'll notice it's NOT burnt, the flavor is NOT dominated by smokiness, but you have a lot more layers of flavor. Then order whatever drink you want- better coffee in means better drink out.

Keep in mind also most of what Starbucks sells isn't really coffee, it's milky sugary drinks that incorporate a few drips of espresso. So you're paying $9 for a sugary calorie bomb made from overly roasted coffee that just makes you fat.


Also- if you usually order the same thing at Starbucks- just learn to make it. Even if you throw $1000 at a nice fully automatic espresso machine, taking the per-coffee cost from $9 to $1 means you'll break even on the machine in 125 coffees. For most people that's less than a year. And you can do it yourself- next time you order, watch what the barista does. They are not wizards and nothing behind the counter is magic. An espresso machine and a blender will make like 95% of the menu. Here's a guide

[–] robador51@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 hours ago

Even on a shoestring budget you can get far. My equipment:

10 euro 'grinder' 30 euro moka pot (bialetti) Decent beans (segafredo, lavazza) about 10 euro per kilo (on offer), lasts my family about a month.

I like late macchiato, which in my case is about 2 thirds milk heated in the micro, 1 third coffee.

I know the above will horrify real coffee enthusiasts, but I can tell you it's a lot better than starbucks, and a lot cheaper too.

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[–] bassgirl09@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

I'll go to my local coffee shop if I want a good coffee experience. Starschmucks is a last effort if I am traveling and I really need coffee (think in the airport terminal), otherwise, I go without until I can get something affordable like a gas station with decent drip coffee or a coffee machine. These CEOs are so out of touch it isn't even funny.

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