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it was only a matter of time until these crusty desiccated old clueless fucks tried to go after VPNs. how are they proposing to prove that user X accessed a given site with VPN, while user Y didn't? and how are they going to go after overseas sites? and good luck trying to get a single ISP on the planet to block all VPN traffic
morons. these are the same people who want to "move on" from epstein
I imagine they will have conservative activists use VPNs to access these websites, and then pass that information onto law enforcement, who will then use that to try and bankrupt said websites and services.
conservatives look at porn just like everyone else. again, it was never about "protect the children." it's always been about surveillance and control. they're using the "stop kids from looking at porn" rhetoric to justify removing every last shred of privacy there ever was on the internet.
they don't give a flying fuck about kids. we're talking about the party of epstein pedophile rapist con men.
They're not intending to prove anything. The goal is to put the burden of risk on websites, to force them to just block VPNs completely. Even if it's unlikely that a VPN user will get unmasked as being underage, the risk of being liable if it does happen will (in theory) be too great for them to ignore.
Time to build up the darknet into the full place to be, rather than the dregs of the earth it is now.
Or build more off-net networks
this has been on my mind a lot. we have the means; it's just used by bottom feeders.
Came here to say this.
It's so damn easy to put a .onion alongside any website. Everyone should do it. And watch these lawmakers' heads explode.
Actually, how does one put up a .onion?
https://community.torproject.org/onion-services/setup/
For super extra fun, make a vanity .onion
Fediverse-over-reticulum-over-whatever would be good too, but i didn't look too much at reticulum, but it seems good for this
Cool, then people will eventually realize they can easily use VPS’s with OpenVPN or Wireguard tunnels, or they can roll their own tailscale network. We’ll stop seeing VPN ads on youtube and start receiving ads for VPS hosting services and vloggers will post instructional videos on how to bypass Utah’s and other state’s draconian laws soon enough.
The small problem I see with using a personal VPS as a tunnel is that your IP is still unique to you specifically, albeit disconnected from your actual geolocation, rather than intermixed with thousands of other people. So they can see that "aha, it's this guy again". If you're logging in with an account though then maybe that doesn't matter.
True you lose the crowd anonymity of being on a server with thousands of others. But if sites go and ban VPN use or a state does, you’ll at least not look to be using one.
VPS hosting doesn't allow you to pretend to be in other countries to view their TV or sites that are censored in your country (unless you pay again for a VPS in each country). So it won't replace everything commercial VPNs do.
Very true
The Internet really does threaten the people who are in power. They are currently realizing it and doing what they can to stop it. I just hope the Internet ends up winning. I used to be fairly optimistic about this in the mid-2010s when I hadn't been hearing very much from the copyright industry anymore... then, in the late 2010s, attacks on the free and open Internet really started to get serious. I wonder how much they will escalate.
Shouldn't there be some constitutional requirement, maybe under "due process" theory or otherwise, that US state laws cannot apply to anyone who has no way of knowing that they are even doing something (in this case: serving customers) in that state? Has anything similar been litigated before?
the internet is gonna be meshtastic..
USA really needs to replace the moron-class as their leaders.