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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

I used to sleep in class. But only after doing all of my work. I had ONE teacher who agreed that as long as the work got done, and I wasn’t disturbing anybody else, she would let me sleep.

~Of course she was a first year teacher, so she probably didn’t know better.~

[–] Bruhh@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

Or I can just do nothing anyway and then feel bad about it 😎

[–] dnick@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 hours ago

The only way it makes any sense is if you did it quickly and sloppily.

If you were doing it quickly and to anything approaching a reasonable approximation of 'your best', then the teacher was just frustrated that the work was too easy for you any they hated seeing anyone getting a break but they saw no way to give you more work than the other kids. Most likely because they were too lazy to come up with a good tiered lesson plan.

[–] Tenthrow@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

My dad did this to me once when I was a kid. I was helping bring in the groceries and was carrying as much as I could (which was a lot, but obviously not more than I could handle) and my dad told me it was a "lazy man's load" that pissed me off pretty badly. I was helping dickhead. I can't remember almost anything from my childhood, but I'll never forget that shitty comment.

[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

when I was a kid. I was helping bring in the groceries and was carrying as much as I could (which was a lot, but obviously not more than I could handle)

Y'know that children are notoriously bad at judging things like that, right? Obviously I don't know the guy, but I would have easily said this as a joke at how many things my kid was trying to carry at once even though that ups the odds of dropping and breaking things.

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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I've said for years that efficiency is just high functioning laziness. So long as you got the job done and done right or to your best ability, you did it perfectly no matter how long it took you. If you have time to spare, that is your time to do with as you please. Fuck anyone that says it is your responsibility to maximize production after your requirements are met.

[–] baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 2 points 9 hours ago

efficiency is just high functioning laziness

Reminds me of discussions about how economists working for capitalist oligarchs, define efficiency in terms of value extracted per dollar invested without taking into amount negative externalities like environmental destruction or worker well-being. Such economists are “lazy” about those last two points which, for billionaires that hire them to get their next corporate merger approved, is a feature, not a bug.

Your comment reminds me that every efficiency is tightly coupled to a specific goal that benefits a particular group of people that may not necessarily include myself.

Chapter 40 of The Ministry for the Future by Kim Stanley RobinsonJevons Paradox proposes that increases in efficiency in the use of a resource lead to an overall increase in the use of that resource, not a decrease. William Stanley Jevons, writing in 1865, was referring to the history of the use of coal; once the Watt engine was introduced, which greatly increased the efficiency of coal burning as energy creation, the use of coal grew far beyond the initial reduction in the amount needed for the activity that existed before the time of the improvement.

The rebound effect of this paradox can be mitigated only by adding other factors to the uptake of the more efficient method, such as requirements for reinvestment, taxes, and regulations. So they say in economics texts.

The paradox is visible in the history of technological improvements of all kinds. Better car miles per gallon, more miles driven. Faster computer times, more time spent on computers. And so on ad infinitum. At this point it is naïve to expect that technological improvements alone will slow the impacts of growth and reduce the burden on the biosphere. And yet many still exhibit this naiveté.

Associated with this lacuna in current thought, perhaps a generalization of its particular focus, is the assumption that efficiency is always good. Of course efficiency as a measure has been constructed to describe outcomes considered in advance to be good, so it’s almost a tautology, but the two can still be destranded, as they are not quite the same. Examination of the historical record, and simple exercises in reductio ad absurdum like Jonathan Swift’s “A Modest Proposal”, should make it obvious that efficiency can become a bad thing for humans. Jevons Paradox applies here too, but economics has normally not been flexible enough to take on this obvious truth, and it is very common to see writing in economics refer to efficiency as good by definition, and inefficient as simply a synonym for bad or poorly done. But the evidence shows that there is good efficiency and bad efficiency, good inefficiency and bad inefficiency. Examples of all four can easily be provided, though here we leave this as an exercise for the reader, with just these sample pointers to stimulate reflection: preventative health care saves enormous amounts in medical costs later, and is a good efficiency. Eating your extra children (this is Swift’s character’s “modest proposal”) would be a bad efficiency. Any harm to people for profit is likewise bad, no matter how efficient. Using an over-sized vehicle to get from point A to point B is a bad inefficiency, and there are many more like it; but oxbows in a river, defining a large flood plain, is a good inefficiency. On and on it goes like this; all four categories need further consideration if the analysis of the larger situation is to be helpful.

The orienting principle that could guide all such thinking is often left out, but surely it should be included and made explicit: we should be doing everything needed to avoid a mass extinction event. This suggests a general operating principle similar to the Leopoldian land ethic, often summarized as “what’s good is what’s good for the land.”[cmt 2] In our current situation, the phrase can be usefully reworded as “what’s good is what’s good for the biosphere.” In light of that principle, many efficiencies are quickly seen to be profoundly destructive, and many inefficiencies can now be understood as unintentionally salvational. Robustness and resilience are in general inefficient; but they are robust, they are resilient. And we need that by design.

The whole field and discipline of economics, by which we plan and justify what we do as a society, is simply riddled with absences, contradictions, logical flaws, and most important of all, false axioms and false goals. We must fix that if we can. It would require going deep and restructuring that entire field of thought. If economics is a method for optimizing various objective functions subject to constraints, then the focus of change would need to look again at those “objective functions”. Not profit, but biosphere health, should be the function solved for; and this would change many things. It means moving the inquiry from economics to political economy, but that would be the necessary step to get the economics right. Why do we do things? What do we want? What would be fair? How can we best arrange our lives together on this planet?

Our current economics has not yet answered any of these questions. But why should it? Do you ask your calculator what to do with your life? No. You have to figure that out for yourself.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

me to teacher: well that just makes you a shitty teacher then, doesn't it?

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I assume it depends on the quality of the work actually done, versus the quality that using the allotted time would have allowed. Scantron test? 100 is 100. Essay question (or particularly a term paper) that's nice enough but not very thorough? Maybe the teacher has a point.

I was also absolutely told this by at least one teacher, and in my case they weren't wrong.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I was also absolutely told this by at least one teacher, and in my case they weren’t wrong.

Can you provide evidence to your point without having to listen to a 3+ minute song?

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I could, but that feels like way too much work.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Thats fair.

[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

They literally provide two examples on quality of work vs time spent on work before the song link.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Those two examples are not evidence, they are suppositions. They may be fine suppositions, but the poster provided a link that appears, by context, to be actual evidence. I respected the poster enough to ask what they meant by the song instead of just dismissing it.

[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Are you seriously asking for evidence on this? That some work should be done meticulously and some work can be done quickly and that it can be situational?

Really?

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

I was asking about the song. Thats it. If you want to listen to a 3+ minute song to get a better understanding of the poster, you're welcome to. I'm not. If you want to accept the poster's points without the song, you're welcome to. I was interested in the poster's viewpoint. They included a song which appeared to hold a large part of their viewpoint with respect to an experience with a teacher. I still have no idea what they're talking about with the song. They communicated they aren't interested in explaining more. I've accepted that. If you really want to wrap yourself around the axle on this feel free. I won't be responding to you anymore.

[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 hours ago

Nah you were being snarky and you know it.

[–] sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

There is no problem. If you can do 8 hours of work (well) in 4 hours, you should be able to use the extra time however you want.

[–] hayvan@piefed.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Sounds like a praise to me.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

The problem was that the work tasks were supposed to occupy the students as well as teach them. The teacher was annoyed because this kind of student requires more attention than a student kept busy for the allotted time.

The idea that educating students is the primary goal of school at any level is naive. Everything up to the High-School level is half job-training and half daycare. Education is something that the student may pursue, but it's optional.

[–] compuglobalhypermeganet@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Intellectually lazy. And if you sat there doing nothing and didn't figure that out, and still to this day haven't figured that out...

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