I'd say something negative but erasing these won't change people's suspension of disbelief. The real shit thing is they wasted Carrie Fisher's last appearance on something they didnt care to make good. Its not like its hard, they had a whole bunch of comics to take the best out of and leave the worst in the bin.

[–] HeartyOfGlass@piefed.social 5 points 2 months ago

Don't worry, the next movie will have an AI Carrie Fisher reprising her role.

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The sequel trilogy was a shameless cash-grab exercise. The movies have no creativity, no originally and feel empty.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Somehow, the money returned.

[–] rozodru@piefed.world 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

the problem with Star Wars is it's no longer a novelty. It's no longer something special to look forward. Remember when the special editions came out in theaters? or the prequels? or hell even the sequels? it was a big deal, it was new star wars! now thanks to the disney+ shows and what have you it's "meh". it's not special anymore.

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 months ago

Andor is pretty novel. It's really good. Star wars can be special, but not with idiots in charge.

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[–] ShadowRam@fedia.io 18 points 2 months ago (3 children)

All they had to do was follow Timothy's Zahn's books and make those canon.

I don't understand why or how they fucked that up. It would have been easy big money for them.

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 months ago

Which Zahn books? The Heir to the Empire or the newer Thrawn trilogy? I love both, and I feel like they've done an incredible job with Rebels, Ahsoka, Mandalorian... really all of the tv shows (though I haven't watched Maul yet). I would love for them to continue telling these stories and have the original characters just show up where it makes sense... like Luke coming to collect Grogu for training. Maybe have Han and Chewy running a cantina left to him by Lando. Ewoks starting the process of joining the New Republic and electing representatives. And Wedge... well, he had enough of war and no one has heard from him in many years.

They don't need to keep telling stories about Luke... the remarkable part of his life happened when he was young, now he's doing the boring and difficult work of rebuilding the Jedi Order. There's no exciting story there, but he can be in the background of other characters who are doing remarkable things.

[–] MarxMadness@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I wonder if they even had to purchase the film rights to those books separately, or if they came included in the deal.

[–] Bloobish@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

Either way would have been a financial drop in the bucket to purchase those rights or threaten legal ownership because they bought star wars through Lucas. Either way Disney fumbled hard on a possible billion dollar property that proves capitalist can't even capitalism properly.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They did, they got everything, when Lucas sold out to the 'white slavers'.

Which is why they intially declared nearly all EU stuff to be non canon ('Legends'), and then started making bit and pieces of them canon, by piecemeal making media with many of the characters and concepts and half plot arcs and beats from them, into various parts of their movies and shows.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrawn_trilogy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_in_other_media#Disney_acquisition_and_canon_restructuring

They... they got all of Lucasfilm.

Thats literally all StarWars IP, up to 2014.

George had been very careful to run everything through Lucasfilm.

They even got Zahn to come back and write new Thrawn and Ashoka books, to try to make those characters make more sense with the new canon.

It really was as simple as "Kathleen Kennedy decided she knew best, fucked up continuously and broke everything, pretended the entire time she did everything on purpose."

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

IMO they should have made the expanded universe for the adult fans and done their own thing for the PG fanbase.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Have you watched Andor, The Mandalorian, Ahsoka or (to a lesser extent), book of boba fett and obi-wan kenobi? In my opinion, they were all vastly superior to the sequels. Rogue one was one of the only Disney movies that was also very good and tied into Andor. Disney did the series right, but completely fucked the dog on most of the movies. I didn't really care for the Acolyte, but a good amount of their TV series' have been phenomenal.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Zero percent chance this happens.

This rumor has been around for years and with the "World Between Worlds" everyone assumes that's how it will happen.

Mando messed up when they speedran the post season 2 story in a completely different series (Boba Fett). Boba needed a better story. Mando needed a (small) time jump and some time alone.

They messed up Mando again when they speedran the end of the Darksaber story.

We're getting the film now, and while I'm sure I'll enjoy it, I expect another reset after it comes out.

Buuuuuuut let Star Wars TV be TV and interact with each other a little bit but mostly just tell their own stories. Pick a new era for films without any of these connected characters and let them build an area on their own. It looks like Starfighter might do that.

[–] Yeller_king@reddthat.com 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The galaxy and timeline is so huge you don't need to do that. Just steer clear of the time and place of the sequels and tell stories about other times and places.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago

Knights of the Old Republic 1 and 2 also did really well by completely sidestepping any movie material and going way back in the past. A movie with a HK-47 like droid would immediately have a super memorable character.

I don't see why disney doesn't just fast forward 100-200 years into the future, leaving plenty of space for a new expanded universe to be written in. I guess their creativity bankruptcy is just that big.

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

Yeah there's a ton of material they can use from the Old Republic and still have zoom zoom light saber Jedi battles or whatever.

[–] robotElder2@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

Each previous Disney movie did its best to remove the one before it from the timeline. I guess they have another in the pipe.

[–] The_Grinch@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

The only hope of having another decent star trek or star wars series is if someone organizes another fanmade one like Star Trek: Continues which was fantastic.

[–] RedFrank24@piefed.social 6 points 2 months ago

Geeks and Gamers are a notorious right-wing grifter. Take everything they say with a massive truckload of salt, and then another truckload.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh no, not the time line!

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Relax. Itll still fit in the time it takes a star destroyer fleet to catch up to crippled rebel scum.