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You guys are looking in the wrong places if you think 4chan hates Trans. The /gif/ board is constantly full of Trans threads.
I mean yeah, there's all the other horrible 4chan shit, but there's definitely a higher than normal representation for Trans folk.
Jesus fuck, it's worse than 4chan. Like it's a competition.
... the one for software testing has one post, one of the anti-trans communities has nothing, and all the posts in the other one are by the same person and a month ago.
also, for someone who dislikes trans people, they sure do have a lot of memes about them. an obsessive amount of them.
EDIT :
You will never know the joys of having kids you perverts
I doubt the poster will either
Ah yes, the bare necessities for a lemmy instance /s
It's like you're speedrunning defederation
Edit: just looked at it, what a sad little life. That guy's obsessed.
lol. obsession.
fuck that instance. - i remember someone spamming these exact memes about a month ago in 196 and related communities
Those are weird priorities...
Marked for a while now https://gui.fediseer.com/instances/detail/lemmychan.org
You can Follow our censures against bigotry and csam on fediseer to ensure you don't stay unprotected until someone brings it up
What is freeze peach?
CSAM is not free speech.
Is it a euphemism for CSAM?
As I understand it "Freeze peach" is a derogative term for admins who claim free speech to excuse not taking down nazi-ism, CSAM, et al from their instances.
Not Applicable
Hi, trans lady here, fuck that guy and fuck his instance.
Thanks for being cool.
Thanks, just defederated us
Looks like it's still federated on piefed.ca. Don't forget about us!
piefed.ca is set to just follow lemmy.ca, not sure how often it refreshes....
Daily.
Hey if you’re active, do you mind replying to all your false accusations you’re spewing all over the Fediverse?
Please don't do that that. Hounding people in irrelevant threads just comes off as harassment and makes you look worse than them.
Dunno about that. If that guys an asshole, I know about it now thanks to that other guy. That's a community service.
Imagine if some guy in real life was a total mcasshole out around town and you were like "listen, he's just here trying to buy coffee, why are you bringing up the fact that he's a violent asshole"
I'm just speaking from experience. This is how things play out in these situations.
No, they won't. Lies spread faster than truth.
https://piefed.social/u/Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Rimu might not be seeing anything you've posted for the last few hours, might be deletion?
I'm perpetually shocked that there's zero vetting for federation...
Like, I get needing to give a new instance a chance, but it feels like shared between all the admins that federate, keeping an eye on them wouldn't be hard for a probationary period.
But like..
Admins really saw a blank instance with "chan" being the only other word besides "lemmy" and thought shit was gonna cool?
Is federation really automated to the point no human makes a decision? If so, that's an obvious flaw and trolls will just keep spinning up instances to troll from. If one person has to pay it all the time, it's a hassle. If ~100 people are pitching in or taking turns and they don't care what the domain is because they know it's temporary...
Have admins even considered how to prepare for that?
That's just the nature of the internet. On the contrary, I can say that someone can just sign up for normal instances en masse and spread hate speech
They can...
But on a well maintained instance they get banned pretty fast. Like, less than an hour if they're vote botting.
That's why the problem is smaller instances that aren't well maintained, either because admins don't care or aren't able.
On those since the home instance doesn't act, the burden falls on the admins of every other instance to eventually ban each account.
Like,batelnback a second.
Think of it as admin who is putting their money and equipment up for this...
That is why I'm shocked they don't defed already, it's the only solution and the longer they wait the more trolls it attracts. Because they'll assume they'll get weeks/months out of it again.
You stamp trolls out quick or shit gets out of hand.
If you're smart, you can get around quick bans via timezones. And defedding small instances or not allowing single user instances is completely contrary to the idea of the fediverse.
What?
It's just not federating automatically day 1...
How can they defederate if they're not already federated?
They can't defedate anymore...
All I'm saying, is delayed initial federation, I hope this was simple enough.
This instance looks like a month old though. Some people for example, self host wordpress blogs and have ActivityPub on them.
Cool...
Right now all but one instance federates by default, if you're saying going in the complete opposite direction and only one federating by default would be a bad plan....
Yes, obviously it would be
Like almost everything else, it's not binary.
Some instances who don't care can leave the door open.
There's this weird insistence that "fediverse" all needs connected and agree on moderation, it doesn't. That's the entire point of it, that everyone has a wide selection of instances to choose from that do different things.
Not lashing them all together so that "admin" just means "power mod" and anytime there's a disagreement they get to have a slap fight over it.
Even if one person wants multiple flavors, alts are very easy to make. If you young or old enough to need an app for this, loads of them automate it
Oregon Trail in the middle can always handle multiple websites tho with their own passwords and logins. It's weird that's something to brag about now though. Thank James Cameron I guess.
Some instances operate on an allowlist rather than just blindly being open, but honestly the number of problem instances is much lower than you might expect. Most are just wide open. Spinning up an instance will cost you some time and a domain, so it's not exactly a zero cost effort.
Honestly I have no idea what "chan" has to do with this, I only know it as the japanese honorific. Edit: Oh, chan like 4chan? That one didn't occur to me.
“Chan boards” are a thing. 4chan wasn’t even the first.
It all started with trains.
Chan is short for channel
Instances can either be blocklisted or allowlisted. A given instance must choose one method or the other, and almost all instances choose the former. Hexbear is the only one I know that chose the later. They vet instances individually before allowing them. Keep in mind that the fediverse is not just Lemmy. It would be a lot of work to vet each new fediverse instance that comes along.
Thanks!
So it's just a setting they can flip at any time. When (not if) instance spam becomes an issue, there's already a way to address it.
Keep in mind that the fediverse is not just Lemmy. It would be a lot of work to vet each new fediverse instance that comes along.
This could (hopefully would) be mitigated by blocklist admins monitoring one of the resources that quantify instance activity after like x months. If everything checks out, let em in with a reminder in y months to circle back.
Semi related:
I've always wanted to see a mod list that breaks down "local". Like, you look at .worlds modlist from the main page, and it's every mod action from every federate instance.
It makes it hard for users to see what their own admins are up, especially with how frequent these discussions is, I feel that option would increase transparency for how an instance moderates so users can make informed decisions where to set up roots.
I’ve always wanted to see a mod list that breaks down “local”. Like, you look at .worlds modlist from the main page, and it’s every mod action from every federate instance.
Yeah that'd be nice. Modlog has always left much to be desired. Although the core concept is great, it's not fleshed out enough to be as useful as it should be. Sometimes it can even be weaponized by rogue mods to slander certain users. Because when you ban someone, that mod action is permanent and you get to put whatever text you want as the ban reason.
It definitely needs work but I can understand other things taking priority, considering most users will never interact with the modlog anyway.
It's happened to me, I have gotten banned from communities just because I was banned from other communities, one of them even says "check the modlog"
I guess on the bright side at least it shows the text of the comments that got removed right there, and links directly to the thread. So people can easily verify for themselves whether they would agree with the ban or not. It's more of an annoyance than anything, they can put whatever reason they want for banning you, but they can't edit your comments or control the words you actually wrote down. So if you stand by what you wrote and others agree with your perspective, it just makes the mod look bad and they can also get removed for abusing mod powers.
In some ways, I think context also matters. For example, you can debate a topic theologically in a different manner to politically. So for example, "dancing is a sin in flaxifarianism, and we should hold to flaxifarian values within our temples" in a flaxifarianism community is different to saying "dancing should be politically outlawed" in a general community, or worse, one dedicated to dancing.
Yeah totally, but that's why it links to the threads with the full context if you click on the modlog
That was a question I asked our admins. When a new instance spins up is there any kind of probationary or quarantine period? Nope, not really. 😔
Apparently it's an option. I'm assuming that means it can be changed later, I can't imagine it being locked in.
We defederated from 2 weeks ago after a heads up from @Deceptichum@quokk.au. What a horrible instance it is.
Click to see if you are currently federated !fucktroons@lemmychan.org
maybe hide it in a spoiler so people can opt-in to seeing the hateful community name
Why? That comm just wants to have hateful, degrading sex with their target of objectificati---nvm, there's no way to spin that naming in a positive light.
Er I didn't know what to expect and trans-related is the last thing I would have thought of. I had been thinking of using that name for an instance or community with per-thread anonymity, mostly to make it harder to build user profiles by scraping.