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[–] korazail@lemmy.myserv.one 10 points 3 months ago

For a decade or two now, it's been pretty much assumed that everyone has an internet-connected, camera-equipped, browser-capable device in their pocket. Restaurants, banks, hospitals, employers and even government offices use QR codes and websites to get you to their menus, forms or services.

If ID is being tied to my mobile spy device, then I need my mobile spy device to be a right and not a luxury. $40-50 for a few years of validity, internet access provided at no cost, even if slow. I can have my luxury phone be where I'm 'anonymous', but I want the government to subsidize the mobile spy device if it's a mandatory expense. Even cheap phones cost a lot of money.

To be clear, I don't want ID tied to my phone, but it's gotten harder to exist without one, so it should be something we have access to with minimal friction.

Add food, water and shelter to that list, but you can't ask for them without a web browser.

[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I'm not a security guy, what is the problem that this is supposed to be fixing? Like I guess you wouldn't be able to use a virtuallised os to visit your banking website? Like I understand if you work for a bank you should only be able to access some things from specific computers, but normal people?

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They're claiming it security authentication.

Realistically, it's keeping people in their walled garden.

You can use a web browser on a Linux computer and get right through, this change is to force people to only run latest generation google products.

This would also block people from using real google phones over a certain age where they cannot upgrade the OS anymore.

[–] FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Realistically, it’s keeping people in their walled garden.

I felt for a long time, "trusted computing" is such a doublespeak term. It gets avg ppl to think "Oh ofc i want to trust my device! Who wouldn't want that?"

Ofc what it really does, is gives BigTech the final control over everybody's dev.

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[–] lemonwood@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 months ago

The benefit is for Google to make more profits if people are locked into their "ecosystem" without competition driving the prices down.

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[–] w3ird_sloth@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Using graphene on pixel 7 pro. Haven't noticed.

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[–] NGC2346@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago (3 children)

So i just checked back a day later after posting this and it blew up more than i expected. I've gotten some comments suggesting its not really preventing GrapheneOS from being usable, so this might need more context. Do your own research and testing on this one for sure, as with most things. Sorry for not answering comments, quite busy right now.

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[–] magnue@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

If you're serious about it probably worth just using an old phone as an Auth device and only switch it on for that and still use graphene as your daily driver.

[–] blinfabian@feddit.nl 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

i havent noticed anything? except youtube being slow as always i supposr (/e/os user)

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[–] auzy1@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

I really wish Jolla got their crap together honestly

[–] kepix@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

graphene can have the play service, but in a sandbox. anything other than that uses microg so its emulated. probably needs some time to get up to speed. if not, just use the desktop site instead of mobile. i dont really see this as much of a threat to any of us.

[–] ReginaPhalange@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Desktop site is going to require QR scan.
I don't know what they are going to do about "I don't have a phone" / "I only have a dumb phone" population. I suspect that sometime soon I'll have to buy a stay-at-home Google certified device, to bridge the locked down features and services.

[–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 7 points 3 months ago

They don't give a shit about that part of the population, maybe they can even force some of that part of the population to finally cave in and get a smartphone.

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[–] cafuneandchill@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (8 children)
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[–] pirate2377@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Welp, everyone buy a Google Pixel 3a from eBay and install Ubuntu Touch I guess

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[–] libre_warrior@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago

That's a raid!

Stand your ground.

[–] epicshepich@programming.dev 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Most of the time, my phone's browser is disabled. It keeps me from using my phone too much. I understand not everyone is in a position where they can do that though.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 7 points 3 months ago (4 children)
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