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This morning while checking if Quokk.au's new instance logo was federated out, I discovered that overnight we had been shadowbanned from the PieFed.Social Instance Chooser (This is a tool to help spread out users across the platform and help avoid funnelling users into the largest.)

Knowing that Rimu was happy to explain, I just asked for some clarification as we were visible on every other PieFed instance except his.

Apparently for ' obvious reasons ', of which I can only assume is our left leaning anarchist/pro-trans stance we were chosen not be advertised on the PieFed flagship instance and first point of contact for many potential new users. Seeing as a large portion of our new users found us via this method, it will have a tangible effect on a small instance such as ours.

This was a pretty sad sight to see, and reflects the sort of petty drama that is emanating from the PieFed project lately. It's now the third such move to discredit and harm left leaning instances by PieFed's lead developer. This also shows a trend towards autocratic unilateral decision-making on Piefed.social, of which is starting to be run as a personal fiefdom without consulting the team or users.

I must commend Lemmy.ml for remaining neutral and not letting its own political leanings influence join-lemmy.org, while simultaneously condemn PieFed.social for this immature move that is harmful to the health of the Fediverse.


Following this exchange, Rimu announced a new update to PieFed allowing for some rather concerning things.

  • Modlog: Reason for the action is only shown from trusted instances, so abusive mods won't have an audience. Admins can still see the reason though. Which instances are trusted is set in the admin UI.

This feature means problematic users can now go undetected, and will harm moderators ability to view their past moderation history. For example PieFed.social runs a 'trusted' list of only 34 instances, meaning any mod action taken by any of the hundreds of instances outside of this will not show up. So for example if Quokk.au was to ban a user for transphobia (our most common ban), this will not be reflected for piefed.social users potentially leading towards more hate speech on the Fediverse.

  • Instance silencing similar to Mastodon. A silenced instance is not defederated from but their posts do not show in the Popular or All feeds and their communities are not shown in Starter packs aka Topics. Their communities can still be found in the communities list and joined in the normal way. Once joined, posts in there show up in the subscribed feed as usual.

This is another way to shadowban instances and not 'advertise' them. Surely if an instance is problematic enough that a defederation would be in order rather than this reddit-like move.

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[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.ml 62 points 2 days ago

Yeah rimu is hellbent in his crusade against memes and defense of us imperialism. His "q-anon" blocklist contains leftist sites like grayzone as well as sites like wikileaks.org. He has warnings on his instance for sites like electronicintifada and peoplesdispatch. He put out a hit piece on bans from db0 like a week ago, days after a troll made a fake screenshot accusing some db0 admin of being an undercover nazi, then made his "LLM moderation" scarepost even though he knew that there was none because he asked about it before, blocked db0 the user so none of his posts show up on piefed.social (or federate if the post is in a community of piefed.social) and at this point I'd really ask if you all want to keep with software whos designer is openly hostile to you, be part of his network and introduce people to it. All of this right after MrKaplans knee-jerk defederation. Like it's been a busy two weeks of hostilities from the liberal side of the lemmy/piefed fediverse mainly from rimu who has been very open I must say about being on an anti-tankie crusade and doing everything in his power to make "his software" hostile for people whose ideology he doesn't like. And very much not open about how he intends to achieve this.

Instance silencing similar to Mastodon. A silenced instance is not defederated from but their posts do not show in the Popular or All feeds and their communities are not shown in Starter packs aka Topics. Their communities can still be found in the communities list and joined in the normal way. Once joined, posts in there show up in the subscribed feed as usual.

This is just cannibalising smaller instances. When their communities can't be as easily discovered the conversations naturally will be on the bigger instances and posters will naturally fluctuate towards the bigger instances so their posts can be seen. I bet you all are "silenced" as well.

reposted from my hexbear account for more visibility

[–] rhythmisaprancer@piefed.social 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This stinks. I remember someone from anarchist.nexus posting a question about being banned but not seeing why (I think, I don't remember the details) and a very terrible response from Rimu. I don't see anyone else from piefed.social posting here but I can't be the only one that has seen this negativity over the last month or so. Maybe time to instance hop again or use an old account. Guess I didn't learn any lessons about flagships after being on kbin.social, although that was very different.

[–] Quokka@quokk.au 17 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Well if you do decide to move instances, quokk.au is always open. We have a few improvements to our instance web view over the default PF.

:babaw_you::babaw_win:

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[–] iByteABit@lemmy.ml 34 points 2 days ago

It's always very interesting to see the imperialist type of "leftist" always punch left harder than they punch right. Almost as if that's their actual intended purpose all along..

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I actually like having a second order of downgrading an instance over pure defederation. For example it would be really cool to mark instances from which to accept downvotes. Etc

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[–] meowmeow@quokk.au 43 points 2 days ago (57 children)

Not directly related, but many different instances are very buddy-buddy and share user info. Lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works and discuss.social for example all share information like user emails, etc. this leads to shadowbans, defedding, and all sorts of privacy offenses.

Likely quokk is cause up in that.

This is why it’s important all users use a VPN and unique burner/alias emails.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

LW and discuss.online are ran by the same team.

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[–] Quokka@quokk.au 43 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

This is something different. The PieFed dev is simply being a massive jerk lately and declaring war on the left.

[–] meowmeow@quokk.au 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well, the reason those did this was because my content is too… far left. Antifa, even. And World, SJW, and DS are all pretty conservative these days.

That anti-left mentality is pretty wide spread in the tech industry—surprisingly. If the PieFed dev is in that circle, it wouldn’t surprise me.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

That anti-left mentality is pretty wide spread in the tech industry—surprisingly.

Not surprising. The dot-com boom was mostly libertarian techbros vying for their stock options to go stratospheric, and many in the industry today are still temporarily embarrassed billionaires. The industry’s origins were in the US military-industrial complex. There’s still a visible Western male chauvinist, imperialist through-line.

[–] thatsnomayo@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

Well, this is going to keep happening as long as people treat Stallman's witticisms like a dang bible

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[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (36 children)

that explains why my account got banned before i had a chance to use it.

atleast it ended up working out in my favor: i had intended to switch away from lemmy.word and the ban led me to lemmy.ml; where my social media diet hot a million times better and it made me stop doom-scrolling all the time.

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[–] HuntressHimbo@lemmy.zip 36 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Pretty awful changes. Doubt I'll ever be moving to Piefed and unless it has a pretty substantial course correction gonna end up giving side eye to anyone promoting it

[–] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Piefed has always been a wrecker project. It's not changing.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 days ago

To EEE the threadiverse, thus protecting the innocent minds of the imperial core labor aristocracy from exposure to wrongthink?

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

There is no "correction" necessary, this was the plan all along. Piefed's main selling point always was, "lemmy but anti-tankie". That was the openly stated goal. All those little QoL features that got added at breakneckspeed and with little forethought were to make it easier and more compelling to switch, but I bet the number 1 thing among people that choose piefed over lemmy is that they hate the politics of the lemmy devs (which they don't put into their software) and want the anti-tankie software that bakes it's bias into it's code. A lot of "har har fuck those tankies we like their platform but hate them."

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[–] LefterShark@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 2 days ago (3 children)

PieFed has been giving me the ick the last few weeks, it looks likes it’s heading in a bad direction.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 37 points 2 days ago

diet reddit

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[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 days ago (2 children)

kicked Marxist-lemonist

Made me laugh.

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