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[–] sonofearth@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

More anti-trusts lawsuits please. Just put a fine of no lesser than a 100 Billion $ on these parasites.

[–] smeg@infosec.pub 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Google and the Open Web

  1. Embrace

  2. Extend

  3. Extinguish <-- we're here

[–] MrEff@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Ah yes, the 4X buisness strategy. Building an empire through four core pillars:

eXplore, eXpand, eXploit, eXterminate

[–] PetoniousRex@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago

Slowly bringing his palm to his forehead a raspy voice whispers “***No Shit ***MORONS

[–] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 10 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Graphene OS need to develop their own app store.

They already have one. Maybe they could partner with F-droid...

[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

They do have their own App Store, it’s just only got like… 14 apps in it. Mostly just the stuff they’ve made them selves that they’re super confident in the security of, as well as a couple of other app stores like Accrescent

To start allowing submissions of any third party app to it would ether require them to do a ton of vetting to ensure it meets their standards, or for them to drop the standards for security and privacy for it. If you want more than that handful of defaults, Accrescent and the google play mirror are there ready to be installed

[–] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 2 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

They need to start incentivizing developers to develop for their app store.

[–] ___@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You need a lot of money for incentives. The bigger factor is large scale adoption among the corporate apps that others use (their privacy policies notwithstanding), which I realistically see never happening for Graphene, sadly. Sideloading is a decent alternative, I just don't know how long it'll be around for.

[–] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 hours ago

Sideloading only needs to be supported by the OS, and the developer. (am I wrong here?)

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

Why not just use F-Droid?

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The irony of having this in the middle of the article

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 1 points 9 hours ago
[–] eskimofry@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago

The capitalists will sell us the noose with which we will hang them? or however it goes...

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 99 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That’s an American thing, not just Google. They only believe in a free market when it’s their products and services. Theft is fine as long as it’s only them.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago

When a Capitalist says “free market” what they mean is “free to monopolize.” It’s about keeping the pathway to feudalism free and open. The US is its temple, but Capitalism is a global cancer.

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (5 children)

this is just capitalism thing.

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[–] MortUS@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Something something... Capitalism

[–] notso@feddit.org 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

More like neofeudalism at this point.

[–] markon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

And actual full on fascism to boot.

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[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 122 points 1 day ago (17 children)

Please consider donating to PostmarketOS to build up a pure mobile Linux alternative that is completely free of Google's influence. It's the best long-term option we have.

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[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 286 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Now it's an international matter of national security. Let's go world, time to de-americanize your tech.

[–] Drewmeister@lemmy.world 126 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yes, but, from the article: ”GrapheneOS also says governments and banks are increasingly adopting these verification systems for things like payments, digital ID apps, and age verification services.

“Instead of governments stopping Apple and Google from engaging in egregiously anti-competitive behavior, they’re directly participating in locking out competition via their own services,” Graphene said."

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

alot of countries have fully bought into the surveillance thing, UK is planning to give NHS full acces to its patient database to PALANTIR.

[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Exactly, it's not only about fighting Google, it's also about setting a better, more open standard for the rest of the market.

Recently my bank has rolled out a new mobile app now relying on Google wallet for NFC payment. I was able to use NFC payment on GrapheneOS on the old app, I can't on the new one. The online banking stuff still works (for now) but no more mobile payment for me. I didn't sign a fucking contract with Google, why would I hand over my payment data to them !

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

I don't understand why Google would do this. I mean, you sell a phone that has an alternative operating system that runs well on it, and you sell more phones, right? Or do they actually sell hardware at a loss? Is that what's happening?

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

It’s been incredibly clear for a long time that the combination of greed, stupidity, and selfishness does not care about making money based on consumer happiness.

Product is a higher quality so people will buy more? That could mean that someone else can make a better thing, and implies choice. Bettee to just assure that the competition doesn’t exist and then we can make shittier, cheaper things that cost even more.

Four day work-weeks are more productive and make people happier? It also means they’ll expect respect and we can’t have that.

Basing the entire world power supply on gasoline is clearly a terrible idea and we should be looking to have a diverse set of sources, many of which are renewable? How about we just make up a bunch of lies and propaganda so that we never need to change?

Sony had to come up with lithium-ion batteries for their products because battery manufacturers were plenty happy making lead-acid and telling everyone who wanted more to go fuck themselves.

The reason you don’t understand is because you assume that there’s a level of morality to capitalism and to corporate decision making. There is less than zero, it’s awful on purpose.

[–] BigJohnnyHines@lemmy.ca 31 points 22 hours ago

Google is an advertising company. Everything they do is about collecting data to feed their advertising arms.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 14 hours ago

Hardware they sell is probably a loss or super low margin.

[–] benjirenji@slrpnk.net 22 points 1 day ago

They don't care about HW. HW is just a "distribution line" for their software. They care more about people using their software and giving them data. Most Android phones sold are not Google's Pixels but third party vendors. If a particular device doesn't sell well they won't care as ling as the Google ecosystem gets strengthend.

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago

I'm not sure if "rival" is the right term. Seems like Google would be very happy to be a monopoly.

[–] Curious_Canid@piefed.ca 72 points 1 day ago (6 children)

The current US government is strongly in favor of corporations screwing over individuals, so we aren't likely to get any help there. The EU and China are the only organizations that might be able to intervene. Unfortunately, they both seem more interested in the surveillance opportunities than in the good of their citizens.

We seem to be heading toward a two-tiered internet. One that will be accessible to everyone, but will be limited in terms of commerce and possibly content. One that will only be accessible to people who are willing to give up their privacy. That might actually turn out to be a good thing. Buying from the corporations could easily end up limited to the later group, which would encourage more people to shift their buying to other sources.

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[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 102 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (16 children)

Maybe the EU can slap some fines on that? It's anti competitive and against the DMA i assume

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