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[–] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 114 points 1 day ago (9 children)

They did get billed ~$150k and paid for the water. Questions have not been answered about how the two connections were made without the water authority's knowledge. Seems difficult for a water main to just spontaneously form but maybe, I am not a pipe expert

[–] MrSmith@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

It's nice to be able to use stuff for free. If you get caught, you just pay what you would have paid. If you don't - free stuff!

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

they knew, they just dont want to openly admit it, and just use ignorance.

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[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 21 points 1 day ago (6 children)

~$150k and paid for the water

Can someone put that into perspective for me? I also have a hard time figuring how much 30 mil gallons actually is, like how many households for how long etc.

In any case, honest mistake sounds like a blatant lie, but hey, if POTUS does it why shouldn't they?

People should provide article links.

[–] spizzat2@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

According to the EPA, the average American family of four uses about 400 gallons of water per day, or 12,000 gallons per month. This feels high to me, but we'll use that.

So, 30 million gallons is roughly the monthly usage of 2,500 four-person households, or the daily usage of 75,000 homes.

[–] LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (3 children)

That definitely feels high, mine is a household of two but I know exactly how much water I use because I'm off grid and I have to go haul it myself from the city my tank on my trailer holds 275 gallons and that's generally enough to last me anywhere between a week to two weeks depending on how much laundry I need to do.

I shower daily, do dishes all the usual stuff so what the fuck is the average family doing with all that water that they are using more in a day than I do in a week

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[–] core@leminal.space 5 points 21 hours ago

I feel like they're adding in water usage to manufacture goods and deliver services. We're a family of four allotted 2k gal a month for a base rate, over that is charged extra. We've never gone over that 2k, and we're using normally (dishes, laundry, bathing, watering plants, etc).

[–] abcd@feddit.org 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How does the average American Family manage that consumption?

German family of Four here: We use around 200liter a day. That’s roughly 50gallons. And we do wash ourselves and our clothes.

[–] scibra122@piefed.social 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It's for sure a lot. Maybe the Epa is counting the water that so many Americans spend watering our trademark huge monoculture lawns so they can stay green regardless of drought/heat wave conditions. Some homes have almost industrial scale sprinkler systems just to accomplish this, although I'm not confident even that would get you up to 400 gallons

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[–] areakode@riskeratspizza.com 78 points 1 day ago (6 children)

If corporations are people, I want to see Texas execute one!

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[–] sen@lemmy.zip 45 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I don't understand how data centers work. Like are they hiring people to stand there with a hose spraying racks or something? Why the fuck isn't this water being cycled?

[–] bort@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 day ago (18 children)

most are closed loops, but some are not, i.e. cold water enters the datacenter, cools it, and then warm water leaves as waste water.

[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was under the impression that the majority of them are not closed loop, any idea if there's data (no pun intended) anywhere? A quick search found me not much

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It sounds like the waste head they create is getting harder and harder to cool with heat exchangers. So evaporative cooling is more efficient (power wise, not water usage wise) and they basically spray water on the cooling towers and it blows away in the wind as vapor.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 10 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

So they could not use the water too, but they are saving money and simply prefer stealing the water they don't even need

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe, thermodynamics are a jerk, and it may be impossible to get enough cooling in some environments.

It could also use more power to compress refrigerants to cool it other ways. Then we’re trading carbon in the atmosphere for water waste.

Sure we could use solar, hydro, or nuclear, but we could also just stop the fucking slop and waste less of everything.

But without political revolt none of that will happen.

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[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

Closed loop is often relative.

The water in a rack, closed loop, it gets recirculated.

However, the closed loop will run through a liquid to liquid heat exchanger, and that second loop is usually going to a tower to get evaporated.

The plumbing in the rack can be very picky about water quality and want additives that would be very bad in an open loop scenario.

So you end up with people at the rack level talking about 'closed loop', but they run through a CDU that is open loop. Basically closed loop when picky about the water, moving heat to open loop where they can actually get rid of the heat effectively.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 points 16 hours ago

How dirty is the water leaving the cooling loop?

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[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 52 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Sciaphobia@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] sudo@lemmy.today 19 points 1 day ago

Or whatever

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[–] Uranus_Hz@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 day ago

Your AI surveillance overloads require massive data centers. They also need all of the water and all of the electricity to operate them. Just remember that this is for your own good.

You will own nothing, and you will be happy.

[–] GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

Up next: Paper Mario goes digital.

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