This is what genuine intelligence looks like. This man was able to look inward, admit he was misled and made a mistake and tries to correct it while learning something in the process.
Too bad half the country is dumber than this.
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This is what genuine intelligence looks like. This man was able to look inward, admit he was misled and made a mistake and tries to correct it while learning something in the process.
Too bad half the country is dumber than this.
Yes, the three time Trump voter. Genuine intelligence. Give me a break.
The intelligence here is the ability for this person to change their core beliefs after seeing, and accepting, facts.
It matters less how long it took for them to get here, and more that they are here now
No no no...
How long it took them to get here was really fucking important.
I don't think people are so much doubting his intelligence as doubting the sincerity of his about-face?
Is he against Trump because he's become enlightened, and wishes to renounce all the bigoted ideals Trump championed?
Or has Trump's deranged rampage personally hurt him more than he could tolerate? And now he wants a more placid ride?
It's hard to say. And I'm not very willing to let a fascist get away scot-free, even if a few reformed racists have to suffer the social consequences of their actions in the meanwhile. It's not charitable, sure. But fascism is a disease and you don't eradicate a disease by being charitable when quarantining.
I'd say it matters quite a lot that it took them this long to get there. Quite a lot indeed.
These people should be banned from polite society and be glad that's all.
If it takes a decade to see and accept facts it's no so much intelligence as an accidental brain neuron firing.
Not at all.
The backlash against Minneapolis was bipartisan, at least among the people. The backlash to the war is even more mainstream. Donald's popularity is even worse than that of Jimmy Carter, so a significant percentage of people who voted Republican are likely to flip or simply not vote in the next election.
The problem is that people who voted Republican, admit it, and then affirm publicly they're going to vote differently have the fingers of Democratic partisans (And hypocritically, at that, given their support of genocide) wagging in their face, and people are more likely to not vote at all than to vote for someone who outwardly and purposely hates them despite their change of heart.
One day everyone will have been against this
They already are. And they were.
They were lied to.
That's why Donald is polling lower than Jimmy Carter.
The caller, who identified as Thomas from Hawaii, told host Taylor Popielarzthat he now regrets his votes for Trump.
“It’s hard for me to say this,” Thomas said. “But I think if I can open up about it in public that it might help others. I wanted to believe Trump was the real deal for a long time — even though I had doubts because I knew enough about his business history to think otherwise. But now I regret my support for him, and I should’ve known better. He’s making it plain as day. He’s a con man, a liar, doesn’t keep his promises. He’s in office all for himself and he doesn’t even try to hide his corruption anymore.”
Thomas added, “He’s the worst president we’ve ever had and he’s the most corrupt president we’ve ever had. I know it’s hard, it took me a while to be able to say that. Very difficult when you commit yourself to believing in somebody.
Popielarz asked Thomas whether he’d voted for Trump in 2016, 2020 and 2024 — and Thomas confirmed that he had. The host followed up by asking what was “the straw that broke the camel’s back” for Thomas.
“I don’t think it’s one thing, it’s been a cumulative process,” Thomas said. “And it’s gotten so blatant now…He was gonna lower prices on day one, he was gonna do this on day one, only he could fix all this stuff. And now I understand how somebody like Adolf Hitler was able to brainwash millions of people. I never I thought I’d see that again in my lifetime. But it’s happened, right? I thought we got past that, but we don’t learn from history.”
I'm actually impressed. It's incredibly difficult to leave an identity cult without professional help. The guy is genuinely an inspiration and I hope others that heard him will also be inspired.
This guy is not for real. No Trump voter knows how to use the word “cumulative.”
Very difficult when you commit yourself to believing in somebody
It's really not.
Here's a tip, don't "commit yourself" to any fucking slimy politician (let alone this one)
“Three time trump voter”
Shoulda just stopped right there.
Three. Times.
History was always there, ready to be picked up and used as a mirror. Trump has always been who he was. Cruelty, nationalism, and prejudice haven’t changed definitions. There were no secrets.
These douchenozzles are all the same. They were perfectly happy to let trump F everything up as long as it was everyone else getting F’d. As soon as it inconveniences them, they suddenly find some kind of righteous morality.
I mean to be fair he gave a good explanation i thought, slowly realizing over time that he was wrong. Yeah is he a dumbass for voting for him three times, of course. But apparently half our country is dumbasses and understanding how their minds work is key to surviving in this dumbass country.
"Do hateful bullshit to the people I don't like and I'll vote for you."
There, that's how their brains work. It's not some complicated mystery.
They were perfectly happy to let trump F everything up as long as it was everyone else getting F’d. As soon as it inconveniences them, they suddenly find some kind of righteous morality.
Yes. That's partially because many Americans are racist (or at least willing to throw someone else under the bus) and weak-minded, and partially because our education has been intentionally dismantled by the parasite class.
Now, are you more interested in lauding your own moral superiority over them (thereby making them feel unwelcome in spaces and communities able to enact actual positive change) or are you more interested in building working class consciousness?
You have to pick one.
If you're a marginalized / vulnerable person, by all means stay away from these people because yes, they are largely indoctrinated garbage and will probably make you feel unsafe. And you can disregard everything I'm saying in this comment because it's not my position to tell you how to respond to that danger.
But if you're a white liberal (not exactly a longshot guess here on Lemmy), then that is your responsibility. You aren't going to dismantle whiteness by finger-wagging and offering "I told you so" on the internet, you'll dismantle it by showing them another, better way.
It's either that or you round them up and kill them, and I don't think that would be a particularly beneficial approach (except for those convicted Nuremberg style). Otherwise, these people aren't going away and will continue to effect the trajectory of our country. You can try to help heal them, or you can deal with the consequences of them continuing to exist as a moral, spiritual, and emotional black hole.
Get fucked, Johnny come lately. That's all been obvious since 2015. You weren't brainwashed, you're just a Nazi who got conned.
We need to make sure they remember it. A mark of the beast if you will.
Sounds like a mostly reasonable person.
Yes, the Democrats will win a majority somewhere in November. They're currently up 14% over Republicans nationally and that is rig-proof, blue wave territory. I don't see them making any major changes though, and they're probably salivating at the thought of the money they can make for themselves now that it's okay to insider trade AND insider-gamble on crypto and prediction markets.
A few will give some memorable, impassioned speeches before pulling the lever to insider trade, though.
Their strategy of lying down (and/or collaborating) and letting Donald jump off a cliff has worked, and sadly, to the detriment of all. I wish these bastards had actually opposed something.
they're probably salivating at the thought of the money they can make for themselves now that it's okay to insider trade AND insider-gamble on crypto and prediction markets.
That kinda took a weird turn, but okay.
A few will give some memorable, impassioned speeches before pulling the lever to insider trade, though.
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I think the point is that America really needs a strong overhaul to prevent something like Trump happening again, but there are not enough Democrats that are motivated by changing the status quo rather than increasing their personal wealth/power.
Oh. Would have been nice to come to that conclusion ten fucking years ago!
"but we don’t learn from history"
Nah bitch, YOU don't learn. Don't try to lump me in with your inability to feel compassion or hold a coherent thought.
73 year old Hawaii resident Richard Sniffer regrets voting repeatedly for Trump now that his gas prices are way higher.
"Now that it affects me I'm mad at him". Not the myriad other reasons no sane person wouldn't vote for mango Mussolini
Pedophilia? Ok
Corruption? Ok
Mass killings in wars ? Ok
Cutting social services? Ok
Record debt? Ok
$4.90 a tank of gas? Whoa...HANG ON THERE...
For every 1 person turning a new leaf, there are 99 ex-republicans that will be “done with politics” while constantly talking shit about liberals and never taking accountability for their own actions.
We live in a democracy. When you vote for someone that does horrible things, that’s like hiring someone to do horrible things for you. They are “just following orders” from you, the voter.
They're only turning against Trump now because he is the worst thing a GQPedo can be- unelectable. They only care about power. Bush was 100% their guy until the 2008 election then he was persona non grata to the point he wasn't even invited to events. DO NOT believe this "I see the truth now" BS, because the next obvious Hitler that comes along they'll be voting for three times again.
If you live in the US and have ever wondered what you would have done in the shoes of an equivalent German citizen leading up to the 30s, wonder no longer: you're doing it right now.
Give the people someone to hate…
Better late than never. Next step is realising that Trump didn’t get where he is alone, and nothing would change if he were to die tomorrow. The problem is deeper than that.