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[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 48 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I think the point is that America really needs a strong overhaul to prevent something like Trump happening again, but there are not enough Democrats that are motivated by changing the status quo rather than increasing their personal wealth/power.

[–] BehindetheClouds@reddthat.com 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

^ This. America needs a Teddy, FDR or La Terreur.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Her position on Israel even after months of Genocide (voting twice to keep on giving "defensive" help to Israel, though later she changed that position) leaves me with a feeling that she doesn't have strength of principle: when a country has already murdered so many babies that the list of babies 1 year old or younger murdered by Israel in Gaza in just the first 3 months of the Genocide is 17 pages long, nobody with even the most basic moral and principles who has the strength to stand by them, will vote for any support for that country in any way, form or shape - wrapped with a "for defense" wrapping paper or otherwise - quite the opposite.

Even if she is honestly a good person (which I do hope she is), somebody with such willingness and capability to ignore maybe one of the strongest moral compulsions there is (that one has against the murder or children and those who would do it) that they vote twice to support a baby-mass-murdering nation whilst they are activelly mass murdering babies, even if she trully believe it was only for their "defense" (which would also make her an idiot, since if "defense" is taken care of by the US, it frees Israeli military resources for more mass murdering and makes then unafraid of reprisals so they're even more extreme in their mass murdering, which was EXACTLY what happenned) doesn't have the strength of moral and principles of, for example, a Teddy Roosevelt.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Weirdly there aren't enough dedicated voters or candidates to primary them either.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Shows just how rigged the system is against the average person. We can see from Mamdani that you need an exciting candidate first and foremost, then the voter support comes after naturally. People need to feel excited to vote in a system where they feel their voices aren't being heard.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

you need an exciting candidate first and foremost

Yeah I'm sorry that's bullshit.

More boring candidates, please. Mamdani is an outlier in a super blue city.

This isn't a fucking Super Bowl halftime show, this is boring shit and it should be boring.

"The candidate wasn't exciting enough" has never, and will never, be a legitimate excuse for not voting for someone.

[–] rockandsock@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Low information and low political engagement people do need someone who excites them to get off the couch and vote.

The type of people who live for personal drama and excitement.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Nobody is talking about legitimate excuses, we're talking about reality, and the reality is that Kamala starts losing momentum the moment she stops being exciting to the average voter when she pivots to cater more to the right wing voters and her donors.

Mamdani won from being 1% of the polls due to being exciting, which inspired his voter base to go door to door and spread his message. You're also still spreading the lie that a progressive win is only possible in a super blue cities when Platner has already proved that an exciting progressive candidate can make headway even in a purple states? I think your views are outdated at this point.

Also, I don't know why you keep attacking progressive politics despite the fact that your country is already tearing itself apart due to the decades of status quo politics rotting it from the inside out. Be ready to change if you want to stop the death spiral your country is currently in or get out of the way of people who wants to make a change.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If people need to feel excited about getting involved in their own civic self interest then people deserve trump and republicans.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The same can be said about people like you who'd rather feel smug about the issue instead of bringing in actual change by looking at reality.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No it can't. You can judge people that vote against their self interests. Not so much those of us telling you you're voting against your self interest.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nah, I can judge people who doesn't help to improve the situation. At such critical times, people like you brings plenty of harm to the situation.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Says the guy trying to get republicans elected.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I really think you just have reading comprehension problems. From my point of view, you're the one helping Republicans destroy the US.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"From my point of view it's the Jedi who are evil" kinda dumbass take.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Quoting a fantasy story as a form of political discourse? Shows just how serious you are at fixing the problem. You people are still living in the fantasy that your country is not going down the drain, no doubt due to being exposed to too much pop culture that you lost sight of reality.

Going on and on about winning the right way through the enlightenment of the average voter, which is never gonna happen given the state of your education system, means you're simply giving the Republicans free reign to destroy the country from right under your nose.