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[–] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 64 points 3 weeks ago
[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 63 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

At least in the US, I'm absolutely destroyed that people just don't care. They talk like they care, but they just fucking don't. I don't get it at all. They will gripe about how evil and bad something is, then just keep using it. "If everyone else is, so will I" maybe. Group Inertia.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think it's more that most people just aren't aware of any equivalent alternatives, or in some cases like where there literally aren't any alternatives. Look at phones, both Apple and Google suck and their mobile OSes are terrible but what's the alternative? Sure there's a few Linux phones out there and that's almost an alternative but it's not there yet. You could go with a "dumb" phone, but for most people that's not going to work. So you pick your lesser evil and bitch about it whenever the latest round of enshitification hits.

If you asked most people what alternatives exist for Spotify they'd probably say Pandora, and maybe Apple Music or Youtube Music and then struggle to come up with anything else. The better alternatives are suffering from a massive discovery problem.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

What’s an example of an alternative with a really great recommendation algorithm?

Things like recommendation algorithms are difficult for small companies/individuals to provide. Let alone the library of music.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 weeks ago

Since you asked, in the US at least I would say Tidal's is quite good. Not a small company, but an alternative.

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Plexamp does a pretty good job with the radio features, granted you will have to torrent stuff you’re not necessarily familiar with first. If you have a few friends who also share their music libraries with you it can really help by including their tracks in your radios.

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait, PlexAmp allows for multiple libraries?

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Settings > playback > radio > include external media

“Consider tracks from shared servers and TiDAL”

Also if you just mean multiple libraries like switching between them, click at the top. I’ve got 4 of my own and 1 from a friend here.

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[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

People don't wish to help fight the war on drugs. Why should they? Are you destroyed by people's indifference to drug advertising or are you making a general statement not necessarily about this story? Are you okay with legal prescription drugs being advertised? Or is it the illegality that's a moral issue with you??

[–] pineapplepizza@lemm.ee 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Legal drugs should not be advertised either. Drugs or other treatments should be prescribed by a doctor based on a review of the actual symptoms and side effects to the patient. A drug advertisement will generally tell you the key words to tell the doctor and may be missing other factors.

I have symptoms C, L and Q. What treatment plan will be best. Vs. I want drug X because I have symptoms X Y and Z.

That said, I read the OC as a protest to Spotify and their predatory practices in general.

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I'm just trying to find out what about this is upsetting for the person I replied to.

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[–] Blueberrydreamer@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 3 weeks ago

Why would people here care that much about this? This kind of material exists on any site that allows user submitted content, and the only solution is aggressive automated moderation, which winds up hurting everyday users. Would you prefer that anyone who uploads a song or podcast that names a drug be automatically removed and have to be manually approved?

These are low-effort scams to steal credit card numbers, it doesn't seem like any of these had an actual avenue to purchase drugs. They should be removed for sure, but this is hardly some wild breach of responsibility.

[–] Wigners_friend@lemm.ee 45 points 3 weeks ago

So they realised Spotify hosts Joe Rogan?

[–] FreedomAdvocate 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don’t get the anger or outrage or even mild concern here? Spotify lets people upload their podcasts and music. People abuse that.

Spotify didn’t do anything wrong, the people uploading this crap disguised as podcasts did. Spotify removed them when they found them.

Where’s the issue?

[–] Obelix@feddit.org 30 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

It's because we've seen this so many times and are really tired of this: Everybody knows that you have to moderate user generated content. If you provide a upload function for user generated content and don't have a clear moderation policy in place and a moderation team, you will allow scammers, child porn, drug dealers and crypto scammers onto your platform. That has happened hundreds or thousands of times. And then some newspaper will do a report and they will remove some of the mentioned content without doing anything.

Spotify has smart employees. Some of them even worked at other companies who ran into the same issues. But they still decided to launch the feature like that, mostly because upper management really doesn't want to pay the costs of functional moderation. That is how Facebook went on to be used in the genocide in Myanmar. That is how thousands of minors got abused. Moderate your shit. There is no way around and AI won't help you

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I dislike that you can't block NSFW stuff. My son found NSFW stuff on Spotify.. and I had to take it off our Living Room Tv and ban him from using it for now. I think you can block accounts, but there were so many.. Go ahead, search tits on Spotify.. fucking wild to me it's not moderated.

[–] nullroot@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Huh, I had never thought to search for tits on Spotify, but now I see I was wrong for not doing so.

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[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'd imagine that you could even take podcasts and run them through a speech recognition app much like visual voicemail does. This could then parse the text and flag a podcast for manual review by a human to ban an account, could even auto suspend the account until its challenged or reviewed. You don't even need someone to listen to everything since Podcasts and usually spoke word.

Hell I bet I could build a pipeline to run on a local server in under a week that does this. Download the audio. Parse it into text. Then parse the text for any trigger words or phrases.

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[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 35 points 2 weeks ago

Spotify furious that they aren't getting their cut.

[–] Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And we're not concerned that they fund and heavily promote on their services extremist content and disinformation by the truckload?

[–] BussyGyatt@feddit.org 10 points 2 weeks ago

Concern? You obviously haven't considered all the money they're making!

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

🌈 Enshittification 🌈 in all its facets. This one's pretty bad though.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Enshittification is not when Spotify doesn’t immediately notice and purge new uploads with scam content.

Enshittification is when Spotify takes away the free-tier, or makes the ad-free tier have limited ads while raising the price.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago

or does something by making features worst than before.

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