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“on the grounds that their presence in the U.K. may not be conducive to the public good.”
gutting the NHS, intrusive internet age-verification and spending taxpayer money on building weapons to kill civilians in Palestine, however, are all somehow very conducive to the public good
the UK government cares a lot about the public good
"The public good"
SHUT IT!
Piker, a liberal political commentator
Yes the famously very liberal commentator …
So weird how USA pays Israel's bills but UK is the one putting it's citizens in prison for speaking against it.
UK seems to be in an all out race to beat the US to full-on Orwellian dystopia. They’ve consistently been about 5-10 years ahead of the US when it comes to spying on citizens for decades now, but that gap does seem to be narrowing a bit.
Banning Israel’s political enemies from travel does put them squarely in the lead, but don’t count out the USians yet! Palantir’s Flock is spreading its wings, after all.
I feel like these other countries are like labs where groups can test out policy and public opinion campaigns there before bringing it usa
It really does feel weird as an American to see a foreign headline from a Western nation and think "yikes, things are bad over there".
Eh… the USA is bigger and has more people to call this shit out, so the slide towards fascism can’t be as quick.
But the UK is, as a default, a lot more tolerant (or— I thought it was ), so the dynamics of all of this happening is… More complicated?
Seeing this all play out in real time is… Very weird and kind of fascinating
I feel like I’m learning a lot, but I also feel like I’m learning that I know nothing. More than anything, I’m feeling very confused.
Also we are not as centralized as the UK is. The good thing is we are a collection of 50 states with their own governments. The UK is just a collection of England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, and a few other places like Isle of Man that I can think of at the top of my head and that’s it.
UK falling into fascism isn't likely, but authoritarianism, sure.
The UK doesn't have a constitution, nor a constitutional right to freedom of speech. We're a monarchy and have basically functioned under a family tradition for centuries of selecting the leader of the largest elected party as prime minister, and long may that continue. When government has tried to interfere in democracy, this family has clamped down on it. The constitution of the USA is nothing here.
A civilized country wouldn't allow Israelis to enter.
There are plenty of Israelis who do not support what their government is doing. Should all Americans be banned from traveling based on their leader's actions?
Yes. No treats for the treatlerites until we get our shit together.
I wouldn’t be sad about it honestly.
Israel is a cancer not a country.
Counterpoint: Countries are fully capable of being cancers. Case in point: Israel.
That is like calling cancer a distinct organism. It is not.
Cancers can be like a separate organism, albeit a parasitic one
The ETA system has been used to shut down commentators before, it was even used to deny entry for a Christian apologist. This censorship of anyone (unless they're literally advocating violence) is disgusting
