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Hello people, my family recently bought a Renault 5 e-tech. The car itself is great, but there are some aspects that creep me out, especially the driver-facing camera. We didn't actually know that such a camera existed before we bought the car, it was only mentioned as the car was given to us.

The cameras official purpose is to see, if you are tired and paying attention to the road, by some "AI magic", I suppose. You can also let it scan your face, so that you automatically get logged into your profile.

I personally think, that that is kinda creepy, especially as there is no visual indication if the camera is currently recording and no official way to disable the camera hardware-wise. When it is being coverd, the car immediately complains about it.

When talking to friends or family about it, I got one of two reactions: equal concern, or "nice feature actually", "what about the camera on your laptop?", "you are way too paranoid", "I have noting to hide; it is only me driving being recorded".

I have also seen such cameras in other cars, BYD for example.

What do you think, is this creepy or am I too paranoid? Does anyone know where the actual data is processed, on device or on some cloud server? Do you have any experience with such cameras? I couldn't really find any information about it on the internet.

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[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

I've taken apart the screen bezel on my laptop to disable the webcam before -then covid happened. Now, i just cover the camera with taped paper. -I will never have one of these cars but if i found myself in your situation i wouldn't be above using a hammer and screwdriver to remove the camera and dealing with the consequences after.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 months ago

It's absolutely creepy.

[–] yogurt@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Required in the EU and will be required in the US soon. BYD's big export market is Australia which doesn't require them yet but they're mandatory to get a good crash safety rating.

Renault and a lot of BYDs use Android as the software os, so probably it's Android doing the facial recognition (and also probably the attention eye tracking) and that's onboard.

Renault has a dashcam function that records from the built in cameras, but you have to plug in your own USB drive, so the upside of memory price-fixing is it's probably not worth it for Renault to spend $300 to store the data now.

[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

So it'll be possible to root the car through an OBD2 port, theoretically.

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[–] bassad@jlai.lu 7 points 2 months ago

Good to know, thanks!

It is actually creepy, privacy invading, and dangerous in some cases, I think about the guy who made a video working in the woods, simulating a chainsaw accident, and the car would not start because the driver is not 100% able due adrenaline rush visible on his face.

That said, it is a mandatory feature from EU made in 2019 for public safety, with an affiched goal to reduce road deaths. The datas would be anonymous, exploited for statistics and must respect UE rgpd. In theory!

In one hand I find dangerous to track and supervise a population, in the other hand I see way too much dangerous behaviors on the road, especially around pedestrians and bikers, and a system that would say to the driver "hey you fucked up here, don't do it again" would be nice.

Just an anecdote, an emergency brake system detected me walking and saved my life by breaking hard cause the driver was distracted (I was on a crosswalk), otherwise I would have been send to orbit.

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago
[–] jaypatelani@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago

Monthly subscription for safety features coming soon 🔜

[–] picnic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have the inner cam covered on my tesla, no probs so far (been like that for 4 years)

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[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Pull the telematics fuse, although I think they integrate it in so many things now it's rediculous.

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'd just cover it or break it 🤷

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[–] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Wdym the car complains about it?

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[–] treesquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Disassemble that fucking thing. Why do people tolerate this kind of shit?

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[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'll just buy a second-hand 2011 Skoda Fabia. Compact car that just works and doesn't spy on you. Though I'd rather buy the LPG version of it because it costs 86 eurocents/liter here.

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