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[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The fact that there's a performance based profit share is a huge draw

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

Also, if I remember correctly, the crew votes on the captain prior to setting sail and there are mechanisms in place to replace the captain if they aren't performing well enough.

[–] TerraRoot@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I know this is a shit post, but you really can voluteer to sail the world with the Nao Santa María,

https://www.fundacionnaovictoria.org/

I've been on it a while back, beautiful ship.

Too bad you don't get paid for it (in fact, you have to pay for it yourself).

[–] HereIAm@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

A bucket list item of mine is to go on a training ship. I was eyeing up this one https://sailtraininginternational.org/vessel/statsraad-lehmkuhl/.

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Aaand bookmarked. 100% going on my list of stuff to do.

[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 85 points 2 days ago (7 children)
[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Having watched the linked video and its other part ages ago and again more recently, my chief question is always the same. Who begins the process? Given that the captain is just a crew member hired like the rest, who is the one that begins the recruiting process? Without covering that, it almost feels like piracy is caused by random, persuasive ships floating into port. Have I just missed that info every single time?

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 65 points 2 days ago

Sometimes pirate crews started as mutineers. A merchant or navy ship has a captain that severely mistreats his crew. Eventually they get sick of him and maroon him somewhere or throw him overboard. At that point, everyone on that ship has probably already committed a capital offense (especially if it's a navy ship), so they literally have nothing to lose by becoming pirates at that point. If they're ever caught, they're already dead. Initially on the boat are just the folks who happened to be there at the time of the mutiny. But some filtering happens over time. Those who don't actually want to be pirates eventually slink off at one port stop or another. And new recruits are found via quiet conversations in port taverns. A lot of recruiting probably happens through personal contacts, "oh, we're going to port X? Why I have a cousin there that might be interested!"

Also, often pirate ships started off as privateers. A privateer is just like a pirate, except legal. Let's say Britain and France are at war. Britain issues letters of marque to any ship with captain and crew willing to raid French shipping. This is a way for the British crown to target French shipping at a fraction of the cost of having the Royal Navy do it themselves. (It's the Age of Sale equivalent of German U-boats raiding British shipping during WW2.) If such a privateer is caught by the French, they'll still be treated like pirates. But as far as the British are concerned, what they're doing is completely legal. They can go steal a French and ship then sail into any British port and unload their plunder. It's all completely legal and a culturally accepted part of warfare. As long as the captain had their official letter of marque, the harbormaster in any British port would let them participate freely and openly. As far as how these privateers got going? Simple capitalism. Some people with cash to invest would invest in a boat and crew, and attempt to make a profit from the conflict.

And that's all well and good, except what happens when the war ends? Those letters of marque were only good during wartime. And privateers don't get military retirement benefits. There's no pension or these folks. (Not even whatever pitiful equivalent existed for Navy sailors at the time.) Men who were risking their lives sailing the seas, plundering commerce in Britain's name? Well they're now all out of a job. And even if what they did was legal, it still carried a stigma. Job prospects may be quite poor for a former privateer, and it certainly won't be as lucrative. So, quite predictably, after the wars ended, often times the privateers just kept doing what they were good at. So many pirates were simply privateers that had been cut loose by their respective governments.

Usually sea captains of commercial/state ships did the recruiting by usually being extremely abusive and exploitive. All the pirates have to do is get their treasure and let the crew kill their captain and some will want to join.

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Nice try IDF

[–] trashboypro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 days ago

If we have a right to choose the captain I'm sold.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 47 points 2 days ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (7 children)

I answered an ad like this posted by Elcid Barrett back in Nova Scotia. Now I'm a broken man on a Halifax pier, the last of Barrett's privateers.

I don't know that I'd recommend the career.

[–] honeybadger1417@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm sorry about your legs.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Eh, you can't sing shanties if you've got two legs, and you don't own a boat, and you've got no beard.

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[–] shoo@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

A [*squints*] ~20 gun frigate with a crew of only 30-50? That's sounds like a startup nightmare. You'd probably want double that to be comfortable.

"Get in on the ground floor of our fast paced, dynamic environment! Must be self starter willing to work watch-on-watch for the team. No sick days."

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 days ago

More rum for me.

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[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I used to be a farmer and I made a living fine
I had a little stretch of land along the CP line
But times were tough and though I tried, the money wasn't there
'Til bankers came and took my land and told me "Fair is fair."

I looked for every kind of job, the answer always "no."
"Hire you now?" they'd laugh and say, "We just let forty go."
The government, it promised me a measly little sum
But I've got too much pride to end up just another bum.

But I thought, who gives a damn if all the jobs are gone.
I'm gonna be a pirate on the river Saskatchewan!

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[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 days ago (3 children)

That musical instrument list is a joke! No squeeze boxes? No woodwind? No percussion?

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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 30 points 2 days ago (6 children)

You also kinda need to be able to hoist sails, tie knots, swab decks, carry heavy loads, wield a cutlass effectively, and all sorts of other things...

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Eating rotten food is also important. Do it in the dark so you can't see what garbage you are eating...

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also sleep in a poorly ventilated room, in a tiny hammock, with 50 other men. Don't worry, you'd probably sleep well because you'd be so exhausted from the crushing physical labour. You'd be eating simple, unflavoured bread / crackers that are so hard that they need to be dunked in water for several minutes so they don't break your teeth. And, speaking of teeth, your new job does come with healthcare, but that's mostly tooth pulling and limb amputations. Anything else and you just need to suck it up. No sick days either, you show up for your shifts, 12+ hours a day, 7 days a week. Sickness is probably pretty common. 50 men sleeping in the same crowded, airless room. No washing, no soap. Toilets are simply a plank with a hole above the ocean. No toilet paper either.

But, you do get to sing sea shanties.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I can handle all that up to the part where there's no toilet paper. I already know I'm gonna be wet and salty and uncomfortable, but ain't no way in hell I'm getting diaper rash on top of that.

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[–] Homo_Erectus@lemmy.zip 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can I bring my pet parrot ?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No concertina? It's like the piratey-est instrument!

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The concertina has historically been a favorite instrument among people who travel often (due to its small and compact size), leading it to be a common instrument among soldiers, sailors, and cowboys. One was even brought aboard Robert Peary's 1891 expedition of the Greenland Arctic. Despite the pop-culture association of the concertina with the Golden Age of Piracy, the concertina was invented approximately 100 years after the heyday of piracy in the North Atlantic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concertina

Huh neat.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Despite the pop-culture association of the concertina with the Golden Age of Piracy, the concertina was invented approximately 100 years after the heyday of piracy in the North Atlantic.

Shiver me timbers. Me whole worldview be built on a lie.

[–] EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I hate my job, but at least I don't have all the scars in my body unheal and open up.

[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago

consults wellerman lyrics

hard pass

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

While I love the joking in the comments section, I can't help but feel a bit sad.

I'd give almost anything for another sea going posting.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago

It's like a startup

[–] Hedup@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Honestly, rope blisters don't seem as bad as what I'm working with rn.

[–] mtpender@piefed.social 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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