sudo apt install --only-upgrade --no-install-recommends "^vivaldi" "^firefox ^nano"
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Update first, then upgrade
Good catch. Havenβt been using apt in some time.
sudo pacman -Syu
yay
which yay
yay: aliased to paru
Is it even apt-get still? thought they changed over to apt long ago and apt-get is just a symlink for legacy reasons.
At least that's what I last read... (speaking as someone also loving candy) .
apt is a wrapper over the apt- binaries (apt-search apt-cache etc).
apt is meant more for user interaction and apt-get is more stable and more for scripting. But apt-get is often used in online tutorials because it doesn't really change.
I think it wasn't for APT but I once worked for a business with a lot of RHEL, the script that was updating hundreds of servers was using the user wrapper instead of the binaries. A warning was displayed in the script to warn not to use the wrapper for scripts.
I warned my team leader of the issue and was completely ignored and was said that it was an issue for the team that made the script in the first place.
I gave up.
A few weeks later, the poorly designed script botched a major update on hundred of servers because the wrapper had a tiny change and the update script didn't handle it well.
It's insane to me how much money a business can waste for stupid shit like that. The devs warned us not to use their wrapper to script on, the linux team did it anyway, my warning was ignored, many hours of engineers work was wasted fixing the chaos that ensued.
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It runs so much faster if you do upgrade first \s
Update before upgrade you nonce
Cβmon, itβs Debian! Obsolete anyway. Update today, upgrade in a week, not like things gonna change. Perhaps the man forgot the upgrade a week ago, upgraded, and then decided to double-check thereβs nothing new anyway. Right?
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Order wrong.
they need to make apt get upgrate that does both in the right order...
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It's the other way around, but yes, very much yes
he ran it in the wrong order πβοΈ
Plus he couldbhave just used 'apt' one command.
Didn't know we were still doing apt-get
I have a lot to learn
iirc, apt-get is the version to use in scripts. They keep the input & output consistent so that it won't break things.
Regular old apt is for humans to use at the command prompt, and that's what I use all the time.
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It's clear why many Windows users won't switch to Linux, when people show them they'd need to use strange IT tools to use it. While, annoying, Windows doesnt need you to be an IT nerd. Linux doesn't either, but to people outside of the Linux bubble, this is how it gets presented. That Windows update sure looks easier than some manual hack.
apt is NOT a manual hack
To a non IT person who hasn't heard of apt, needing to start the update manually, and needing type some magic words in precisely, is the worst it can get.
I just want to share that last semester, the Windows podium computer we used decided randomly to update during a student presentation. It did not help their nerves, but I did turn it into a chance to evangelize Linux.
And no, they can't use their own laptop, the connections to the podium computer, and thus the projector, use VGA...
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As someone who works on Windows daily... this is so true. One of the things that really annoys me with Windows is being able to reliably do updates. Running any of the update stuff, seems more like a suggestion and if Windows deems your request worthy, it might SLOWLY do something.
I have no artistic skills so freebie: Arch is like Russian roulette where the odds are good but there is still a non-zero chance some update is going to shit the bed. I don't even know how to convey that in meme form either.
KDE Plasma recommends applying updates at reboot like Windows for stability. In fact, that is how it does them by default
KDE Plasma does what I tell it to
Sure, what I'm saying is the "windows way" of applying updates isn't bad and there's a reason why they do it
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In Windows it would be
winget upgrade -all
I'm pretty sure.
Winget update --all
But yes, this updates any packages distributed by Ms store and winget repos. As an IT professional, I love winget.
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You've heard of archinstall, now get ready for
archupdate
(it's an alias I made for "pacman -Syu")
Or if you're me, yay -Syu and wait 4 fucking hours (Because you barely ever remember to do it).
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You misspelled pacman -Syu
No, you misspelled zypper dup. But with enough time, you'll get there.
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Linux noob here. Just upgraded hardware and reinstalled Windows and Linux on the gaming computers and even though I'm a complete Linux beginner, 9 out of 10 software issues were with windows! I couldn't believe a gazzilion dollar company with thousands of employees still couldn't get it right?
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Aaaand... you're on Debian, so Blender 4.0 just got added to the testing branch. (Blender 4.0 still haven't been tested for 168 hours of continuous running without touching it)
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pacman "See you"
I autorun paru -Syyu while my computer is in the process of booting up /S
"Fun" fact: Windows is finally just now, in the year of our lord 2026, trying to release some updates as "live". As in not requiring reboot.
It's going better than you'd expect, but still far worse than they have any excuse for.
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