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[–] gnawmon@ttrpg.network 6 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

add rogue AIs, datakrash from cyberpunk and we're golden!

seriously though, i want a seperate internet with strict no AI policy, maybe even a wall called Blackwall....

[–] joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone 38 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Kind of like how our highways weren't meant for hundreds of thousands of semi trailers on them every day, but we just keep jamming more fucking trucks on the road. Humans will just overdo something until there is a catastrophic failure, sometimes they keep doing it after that.

[–] areakode@riskeratspizza.com 24 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Safety laws are written in blood. Because it's unprofitable to prevent disasters before they happen...

[–] argarath@lemmy.world 2 points 51 minutes ago

But look at them over regulate and red-tape anything that could possibly maybe harm their profits by actually innovating and improving quality... Working in biotech and knowing we could fix a lot of the issues with world hunger and vaccines by using tech we already know is safe but is barred from use because established companies would not profit as much is infuriating...

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality.

Even if it’s broke, wait until it’s financially untenable to ignore it.

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 23 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

This is, consequently, also why all these AI companies are talking about selling computers to agents now. Its obvious the math doesn't work when an agent costs more than a person does.

... but if agents were selling agents to agents while agenting... the math works similarly to company n increasing its market cap exponentially by "investing" in another company... o which promises really hard to invest that back in company n....

Look: its totally logical and all of this makes perfect sense. 🫧

[–] argarath@lemmy.world 2 points 54 minutes ago (1 children)

This is such a dumb reference, but I cannot believe MumboJumbo's current "mini"game project kind of perfectly predicted this... Bots trading to bots who are trading to bots all to boost the economy while the people are either starving to death within the system they robbed from us or living in the fringes and scrapping by

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 1 points 23 minutes ago

Theres a certain amount of inevitability in this... If its expected every single quarter you somehow produce better numbers than your last numbers... you are incentivised to make the sand castle taller by digging around its foundation spill more on the top. This applies to not only individual companies but the market at large - its practically fractal in nature.

Most of the market by now is aware AI and its promises are bullshit. Its just about passing that hot potato nuke around until it explodes. Nobody is worried about each pass making it a bigger bomb... they're worried about not being the guy holding it when it blows.

[–] Repelle@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Venture capital?! Is that you?

[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I suppose once the pillaging of everything they can train on is over, it will calm down a bit. But maybe I'm naïve on that front...

[–] DrakeAlbrecht@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

AI is already training on slop, because it can't tell its own excrement from actual human creativity.

[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 3 points 55 minutes ago (1 children)

Isn't AI training on itself a well known thing to avoid ? If I remember correctly the "" performance "" goes to shit very quickly when you train a model on it's own output.

I doubt serious AI actors will make that mistake.

But on its own, the way they just opened their torrent client and started downloading made me furious.

In France you can still get caught downloading illegally and it can have serious consequences. But for AI businesses, copyright holders seem to look the other way. Businesses have extra rights to citizens and it's completely unfair.

[–] DrakeAlbrecht@lemmy.world 1 points 23 minutes ago

AI developers might be smart enough to filter their own output, but AI training is still taking in output from their competitors' models, usually without realizing it.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago

The filthy rich destroy everything they touch.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

In ten years English will be so sycophantic that conversations will span days.

It'll be like the Ents gathering.

Dead internet theory goes

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[–] IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 47 minutes ago) (1 children)

Human society is clearly being led down a preconceived path created by those that believe their perception of what life is is "correct".

The data centers being built aren't for you to use chatgpt. It's like it will be the final step to truly turn humans that participate in this lifestyle from 'free' into a product, trained, built and traded. Our lives surveilled and data mined to create pin point precise psychological marketing manipulation campaigns specifically tailored to us individually in order to lead our lives down a path that is not ours and not our natural destiny. It's not new, humanity is already so far gone. Detox from "lifestyles" until you know the raw essence of your humanity, and then live for that.

I've posted it before but this quote fits so well.

"...It's a vast subject, a dense subject. I can't possibly do justice to it in the time allowed. This means I'm going to have to insult your intelligence by skimming across the top of subjects that you could get a PhD dissertation written in and still not cover thoroughly. This massive documentation of course is the salvation of the intellectually attuned. I urge you to read for yourselves. Do not take anything I'm saying tonight as the gospel. I'm telling you that our leaders lie to us. They lie to us systematically. They lie to us with a purpose that may not be your purpose. Some of their lies, if you're a young man may motivate you, uh, to go off someday and die, be killed or to kill people." - https://youtu.be/xKJ6NPEDuZA

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

What they want, is to eliminate us entirely. They don't want to use us. They have no use for us once their god-machines are built. They intend to create a world where human life, human labour, humanity in general has no value at all. We're too messy, too complex, too fallible. Humans are fundamentally irrational entities capable of limited rationality when absolutely necessary. There is no utopia coming. They want us gone, by any means necessary. And if they can get us to lay down and die without a fight, all the better.

[–] IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

We are already basically in a pen, consolidated as livestock. This upcoming and modern stuff is just the new way to lead us there. It's like a slow motion genocide. They can do whatever they want as long as people think they have freewill. It's a con, a trick to make people believe they make their choices. And it's probably been going on before America existed. Even the political debates are pointless. Everyone's still fighting for the same entity of human ownership and overall genocide even if they think they are rebels fighting for rights and freedoms. It's marketed slavery.

On that note... This is what gnosticism is about. This understanding. And gnosticism was hidden for the purpose of industrializing religion for control. It feels like the battles going on right now, if one is in tune, are ancient. We are still fighting war for holy ideologies to fulfill the eschatology. The opposite of gnosticism. The opposite of genuine nature, and the opposite of truth.