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Do they actually know how the technology works? They will have to scan everything inbound and outbound connections, basically managed devices.

Apple and Google have been given a three-month ultimatum to make it impossible for children to take, share or view nude images on their smartphones, British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said on Monday.

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[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 24 points 2 days ago

"We will change the law" means they haven't changed it yet. And this PM is so god damn popular in his own party, they are just trying to get his possible replacement in in an otherwise unnecessary byelection. This sounds decisive but isn't a fait accompli by any stretch of the imagination. The tech big guns will sound amenable to such a policy but will do fuck all.

[–] moistracoon@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He knows this is impossible lol

[–] rob200@retrofed.com 2 points 2 days ago

That's what i'm concerned about.

Politicians are usually completely fucking clueless about the nuances of technology, but there’s something in the water in the UK that seems to make their pols reach for the stars in that regard.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

That's not what it does

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 days ago

Covering for Peter Mandelson with a “save our children” campaign

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago

Isn’t he an Epstein pedophile?

[–] ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

We must protect the sausages with the Sausage Safety Act!

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not that it's a good thing but don't either of these companies have enough leverage to refuse with practically zero consequences?

4chan didn't care because of the absurd logic and they still haven't been blocked because they know it would be stupid to do so.

[–] deliriousdreams@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago

Nah. They haven't been blocked because the entire site is based on anonymity and the whole of their business operations don't involve the country in question.

How do you moderate a site when most of the user base are anonymous and don't sign up for accounts? There's nothing to link them back to. How do you prove a child sent anything or received anything with no account? How do you build a paper trail that would support the case against 4chan?

[–] Solaris1220@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Obviously protecting children must always be a priority, the issue with this is, is that tech companies will understandably go for the easier option: force age verification system wide, without it, the OS might be extremely limited, and this opens a whole new can of worms IMO.

[–] freeman@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Obviously protecting children must always be a priority

No it really doesn't have to always be. Protecting children should be balanced against harm to the rest of society. The vast majority of children will thankfully go on to live far more as non-children.

[–] Solaris1220@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I wasn’t exclusively and aggressively prioritizing children safety over everything else, I was just highlighting the fact that it’s very important and should be correctly prioritized and not in a unilateral way.

[–] deliriousdreams@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago

And collect data on everyone including children while pointing to the law and saying that have to which enriches them more and more as time goes on.

They aren't even going to fight it. The like the idea of being able to gather more information on people. They'll say "it's just to make sure they aren't of age yet so we can keep them safe until we can legally show them ads and stuff that they're no longer protected from". They aren't fighting against laws like this. They're lobbying for them.

[–] Armand1@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Google actually already has a system to automatically detect and filter incoming nude pictures. It allows apps to blur then and you can then opt to view them. It's a separate application and uses locally running machine learning.

I can't remember the name of it and if it's just on Pixels, nor what applications it works with. Might just be for their own messaging apps or it might be more deeply integrated. If anyone is curious I'll try to look it up after work.

The point is they already have something similar to this they could maybe leverage.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 5 points 2 days ago

Apple has the same system, just FYI.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today -4 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Sure, give them 3 months to finish posting child diddy images, instead of idk, NOW. A week or two max, followed by forced liquidation.

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Do they actually know how the technology works? They will have to scan everything inbound and outbound connections, basically managed devices.

OP do you know how technology works? Apple and google already do this to a degree. We've seen people get reported to the police for taking pictures of their own kids nude because photos are scanned on upload to icloud or google's photos. This isnt new its an expansion of existing norms

[–] themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Dude everyone is aware that Google scans google drive, it is not your own cloud naturally they can do what they want with it. If you store your data on someone else's server naturally they can see what you store. We are taking about devices you own with android and ios this is completely different.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-plans-to-stop-children-taking-sharing-or-viewing-nude-images Britain will become the first country in the world where it is impossible for children to take, share or view naked pictures on their devices.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Apple already has the capability to alert parents if a nude photo is detected. They do this detection on-device.

https://support.apple.com/en-ca/105069

[–] themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Only for apple apps, it doesn't scan the entire device.

Messages, FaceTime, and AirDrop

Google has something similar I believe for Google Messages

Also they have to verify if the person using the device is a child if they want to implement this on the entire device.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We are taking about devices you own with android and ios this is completely different.

How is it different you have absolutely no idea how this will be implemented. Currently IOS and Android default to cloud storage and we know how many users stray away from the defaults. Both devices already check your photos against the CSAM database and scan your local photos so you can search via tags like "cat" and it shows all cat photos. Who knows, it may be local AI and completely private.

[–] themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I do agree that most people probably don't change the defaults, but I believe that apple stopped the scan for CSAM years ago on iCloud.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/08/tech/apple-csam-tool

Also you forgot to account for apps like Signal which store the photos encrypted in their own database.

This is not as simple as scanned photos, currently apple for example can do this locally on their own apps. The problem is apps like signal.

[–] FarceOfWill@infosec.pub 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Strictly by the description it should include websites too, and would have to be extremely low level to prevent viewing.

Also Nintendo should probably be concerned at how widely the law is written for the DS

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