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[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (12 children)

I dunno, I think the tides of public opinion are shifting on ozempic. Mostly because of how absolutely awful being fat is on your body. Though, where it's priced now it's going to remain a designer drug for vain, rich assholes with a touch of sour grapes for everyone else.

In my own opinion I wouldn't even put it in the same category as those others.

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

A healthy body needs fat. As long as you are healthy, you can have fat. The amount and thresholds can vary strongly from person to person.

[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I agree, but if we look at the CDC: Percent of adults age 20 and older with overweight, including obesity: 72.4% (August 2021-August 2023)

72 point freakin' 4 percent.

With numbers like that, obesity is more like an epedemic and ozempic is a potential treatment.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

Hey that's obese and overweight. Obese alone is only like half of everyone!

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 227 points 1 day ago (5 children)
[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 64 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's no question that judging women by their appearance is a widespread problem, but doing expensive/unsafe medical things for the sake of appearance is also about personality.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yes... a personality often built off the unhealthy relationship society has with women's physical appearance. Sure, women can not care, but their lives will often unfortunately be much more difficult for it. Even accounting for the effort put into their appearance. These things are not so easily divorced in reality as they are in online discussions.

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[–] LouNeko@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Am I supposed to know Ariana Grande on some deep interpersonal level to realize that she looks like a walking corpse?

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[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

think of these things like getting a tattoo. -It's not done for you.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 23 points 1 day ago

Social media is brain poison. That's why, that's the reason.

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 117 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Because the cosmetics industry spends billions of dollars a year yelling at women that they aren't good enough.

They're working the same bullshit on boys too (publicly) for the last 20 years.

[–] Phantaloons@piefed.zip 2 points 18 hours ago

Is that why every brodude smells like tea-tree oil to high heaven now? Every nu-male must be drinking the same Faceslop and Instaslop trends

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 23 hours ago

And then that gets hyper magnified through our little pocket black mirrors that most commonly destroy your attention span, thus ability to deeply consider any concept or do deep introspection, and it creates an incentive structure for people to turn themselves into superficial advertisement mascot people, which itself then becomes culturally normalized.

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[–] daannii@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

Dude my gorgeous friend 38 getting filler. Now looks like she's ate some shellfish she's allergic to.

Keeps getting it every 6 months or so.

Just awful.

I can't tell her cause that will make her feel even worse.

God I hope she stops. I'm angry at the advertisement and grifters that convinced her she needed it.

We are both millennials. Aka ageless women. None of us even look our age anyway. And she's thinking she needs to fix her perfect face.

Idk. I just reject all that nonsense. I'm ready to experience this whole life. I want to be an older woman when I'm older. I don't want to be one way forever. Boring.

But culture tells women they are worthless when they are less fuckable. I hate it.

[–] FellowEnt@sh.itjust.works 5 points 22 hours ago

My wife, 38, objectively gorgeous, is fully on the botox train and it breaks my heart. Feels like its so prevalent a sizeable chunk of the population must have full on body dysmorphia.

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[–] Nora@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 1 day ago

Oh boy a thread about women's bodies, I'm sure this will be a civil and rational discussion and definitely won't have misogynistic views throughout the entire thing.

[–] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 80 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Because society tells attractive women our value is primarily being attractive and losing that is scary since most people aren’t willing to give up the only thing that makes them valuable

[–] interrobang@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 1 day ago (4 children)

When I got fat, people were assholes to me so much more often. They had no patience for me, it was crazy. I got back in shape and I'm worth courtesy and kindness again, apparently.

I'm afraid of aging in part because I'm scared to lose that basic human decency again.

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[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not a woman, so I could be full of shit. It does seem to me that women face much more pressure to be conventionally attractive, especially in image-intensive jobs like acting.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Very true, and already-attractive women started being told how pretty they were while they were younger so it became part of their identity and sense of self-worth. So they're vulnerable to the fear of "losing their looks."

[–] JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 day ago

Maybe a bit like kids being told they are "smart" and "gifted" turns a lot of them into workaholics with a fear of skill-based failure.and coping mechanisms around that.

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A lot is advertising. Dude im 40F. It's nonstop advertising to get fillers. Botox. Implants. Ozempic.

Constantly bombarded with it.

[–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Firefox + uBlock origin. No more targeted ads.

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[–] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 30 points 1 day ago

Self hatred is an industry. The manosphere is one part, and the beauty industry is the other - both trying to make you hate yourself and then sell you the cure. It's emotional and psychological grifting.

[–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 53 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why do people keep inventing ways to make people feel insecure about their appearances? Because there is a lot of money in it, comrade.

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[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago

If you can't accept how beautiful you are, the way you are, doing stuff in your face won't change it either.
The wrost part is the internet and the Barbie effect, that brainwashes women, same as politics, because she did, you have to do it or follow the trend.
Let me tell you what: you are amazing the way you are, you look different, you look beautiful!

[–] interdimensional_sharts@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] quill7513@anarchist.nexus 35 points 1 day ago (9 children)

and if you interrogate where that insecurity has its roots, you will often find the answer is a society that constantly subjects women to judgement for their appearance, be that negative or positive judgement. it is simply the experience of being judged. botox, ozempic, plastic surgery, etc all becomes gender affirming care when you are femme in a society that requires femme identifying people to perform the role of disireable sexual object

the original post asks why. the original post also is why

and men have their own experiences with oppositional gaze, too, so we are clear. if you've ever heard the phrase "low t" applied to a man in his 30s or later, you have witnessed it

[–] RollingZeppelin@piefed.ca 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And now we have social media influencers marketing fucking 10 kinds of steroids to children. It's insanity.

[–] quill7513@anarchist.nexus 4 points 1 day ago

the best thing you can do to resist it i think is make sure the people in your life know you value them for them and not for their aesthetic charm. everyone tell a friend right now that you think they're funny, or that you apprecieate their kindness, or that you value their perspective, or anything that's based on their persona and not their physical appearance. and if you are struck by someone's physical charm, pause, and take a moment to notice their outfit and compliment that instead. their outfit required them to make choices about their personal sense of style

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[–] manuremy@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I get scared of the botox faces, both seen from a screen and IRL. They speak, but face doesn't move. No emotions. It's just unsettling. And it's hard to take the person seriously, even if they were smart.

Often it looks like that the person would be very pretty, definitely not a mirror breaker, under it all. Even makeup often looks like the person would look better after cleaning the skin with a butter knife. I keep hearing from men that their ladies are most prettiest after waking up or just without makeup, but it's not like they can say that without the lady thinking they're being sarcastic.

[–] plutopos@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because makeup is for women what bodybuilding is for men. Go tell a bodybuilder that ladies would find him prettier if he was skinnier, and see his reaction

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[–] trashboypro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 day ago

There's that one Batman: The Animated Series episode when the antagonist was a beautiful actress who thought she was ugly and irredeemable because years of trauma and stress locked her mind to see only the minor imperfections instead of the full picture. That's what I see whenever I see an actually beautiful person does cosmetic surgery.

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