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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 hours ago

I distinctly remember being promised the world would end on December 21 2012

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago

Trump just went on a rant in that humiliating Meet The Press interview, hollering about Obama sending "billions" to Iran, which was their own unfrozen assets, and now he's going to send many times more of AMERICAN tax money.

Take it out of his stolen hoard. He caused this whole thing for no reason at all, because he was too fucking cowardly to say No to Israel, he should pay for it.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago
[–] cranakis@reddthat.com 174 points 1 day ago (6 children)

They cried when Obama let Iran have 1.7B.

They just gave Iran 300B.

Fucking clown show.🤡

[–] Arancello@aussie.zone 67 points 1 day ago (4 children)

if i was a usa taxpayer i’d be a little annoyed at the moment

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

r/conservative is, dare I say, tepid on this deal. Though surprisingly most are: celebrating not fighting at Israel's whim, avoiding discussing the actual amount, calling out the blatant stock manipulation and pretty hesitant to celebrate since they anticipate the deal falling apart inside 36 hours (though predictably they presume Iran will be at fault for that). It's pretty wild, I wonder if the mods are in the hospital or something.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The takes in there are wildly all over the place. Lots of in-fighting too.

My favorite is this exchange: *nu1stunnaConstitutionalist [score hidden] 3 hours ago **

Blah blah blah. All that matters is that the IRGC, the world leading state sponsor of terror — the organization that mass murders its own citizens in cold blood will have access to money. You know what happens when they have access to money? Well, they steal a ton of it for themselves and the rest of it goes towards funding terrorism. The Iranian people won’t see a dime of it. The last time they had access to cash, October 7th happened. Trump has the opportunity to do something incredible for all of mankind but is making the same mistake that every other world leader has made for 47 years. This is just fucking shameful. No deal with terrorists.

**According-Activity87Conservative Devil Dog [score hidden] 2 hours ago **

Most of the leadership of the IRGC responsible for all of that is dead, to include the ayatollah. We were having a hard time finding anyone left who would claim a position of leadership to negotiate with. No one has done more to hold them accountable in the last 47 years. "Trials" were carried about by bombing. They are already telling the talking heads in the control to shut up and get in line with peace. That's a first, this definitely hasn't been the same old same old.

Ok, this take by nu1stunna is rather reasonable... until he replied with this:

**nu1stunnaConstitutionalist [score hidden] 2 hours ago **

This is the exact mistake that I’m talking about. It doesn’t matter if you negotiate with Ali Khamenei (may he be burning in eternal hell) or 100 positions down from him. The terroristic nature is in their DNA. You cannot make a deal with these people. They are rotten to their core. The only reason you see some telling others to STFU is because they are reeling and need access to money. It’s a delay tactic. That’s it. Trump has allies in 90 million Iranians on the ground to help finish the job. He told them to stay at home and that he would tell them when the time comes to come out reclaim the country. Instead, he paused the war and started negotiating with these terrorists again.

There's the white-power racism I was looking for from them.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm so confused by that last one.

They seem to think that this is going to screw over the Iranian civilians, who are all terrorists, who Trump said he'd support, and who he is now betraying by negotiating with the Iranian government, who are also terrorists. So their position is we shouldn't have a deal with terrorists, because we should have a deal with terrorists.

That's... that's gotta be an LLM. There's no actual reasoning there.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

They are so close to getting it, and then it goes off the rails.

Also, another post there said this absolute gem:

"So, as usual from Republicans, very little accomplished at our expense.

We need a real party that will fully oppose Democrats."

Like.... what?!?!?!?! It's almost impressive the depth of insanity they could pack into 21 words.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

For those of us who aren't US taxpayers, we can avoid giving our money to those who are US taxpayers.

https://lemmy.ca/c/boycottus

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I have to pay the US taxes despite living outside the US, and in exchange they won't let me renew my passport because I'm trans, so remind me why I'm paying them?

[–] sudo@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The US is letting Iran access its own money that the US had frozen with sanctions. Same as with the JCPOA. The US tax payers are not footing this bill.

Update only $25B is from frozen assets, the $300B is from the GCC. The people we dragged into this war are footing the bill. LOL fuck the UAE.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That $1.7B was a release of money that already belonged to Iran. The $300B is a straight up payout from US and other taxpayers. And we're also giving them back $25B we withheld as part of the war effort.

I'm guessing the Russian oil sanctions we lifted because of the closure of the strait are just going to fade away as if it was never that big of a deal to begin with.

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I believe it is a shared fund between middle wastern countries and the U.S.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

oh and that 300bn is apparently going to be slush fund by the ME countries, and trump will take a cut in that.

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is it in trump crypto? I bet it is.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 3 points 1 day ago

Iran seems smarter than that

That said, when Americans start to complain about the 300B payout, I'm curious what is the next distraction that Trump will pull.

[–] jobbies@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

'Clown show' is a bit mid.

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

Agree, it would imply everyone is having a good time.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] ol_capt_joe@piefed.ee 9 points 1 day ago

(brainf)Art of the deal

[–] bassad@jlai.lu 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Art of the steal, it's not his money he negociates with

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 day ago

The Shart and the Steal

[–] nightwatch_admin@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

OK I was like … what’s jaw dropping these days? How much can it be?

Took me a good moment to find my jaw on the floor when I saw the amount.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] albbi@piefed.ca 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe that'll be the form of payment.

[–] ol_capt_joe@piefed.ee 4 points 1 day ago

I'm sure you could find a tweet of his saying he would 'give his left nut for ____'

I'll bet Iran has nice jars.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Well hey, since this is surely taxpayer money, according to our idiot fucking regime, we’re all now funding “terrorist activities” 🥴

Ballparking the numbers, ~165M taxpayers gives us a mean handout from literally everyone to the tune of a bit under 2k/person.

This is the dumbest fucking timeline, I swear to Cthulhu

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

Lots of fancy words to say you lost the war you started

[–] ButtermilkBiscuit@feddit.nl 26 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I wonder how JD vance will........couch......this one.

[–] jim_v@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

One section at a time...

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago

buy himself some fancy ottoman, with ornate rugs, and persian couch.

[–] jobbies@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Who the fuck is the 'Gulf coast coalition' that is stumping up the 300 bil?

Better not include the UK public purse. Over my dead body is my taxes subsidising the poor decisions of the US electorate.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

They probably mean the GCC countries: UAE, Saudi, Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, Oman and Bahrain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_Cooperation_Council

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago

And here I was hoping the "Gulf Coast" they were referring to was Florida, Alabama, Louisiana, and Texas.

[–] jobbies@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Oh yeah let them pay for USs mistakes. Cos that's better.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I'm not sure if they even agreed to it, it would be typical for Trump to try to rub losses he has caused off on someone else.
One thing is sure, USA has lost a lot of credibility among all the GCC countries, it shall be interesting to see how much it hurts the petro dollar, because if that goes, so will an enormous amount of petro dollar investments back into USA.

We live in interesting times.

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[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago

A Trump never pays his debts.

Lmao absolutely pathetic

[–] Damage@feddit.it 5 points 1 day ago

That's like their yearly GDP

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I really really hope that Iran will use a little of this money to develop nukes. Then, maybe, we can achieve a little more stability in the region.

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So this Gulf Coast Coalition is just Oil companies?

Meaning that I would suspect that the intent on the US side is that Iran gives its oil fields to them in return for that theoretical 300 billion.

But this would be what, the third, maybe the fourth time the US and Iran have danced that dance?

[–] sudo@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

The GCC all the Arab nations on the other side of the Persian gulf that got their shit rocked for hosting US bases. They are not in a position to make any demands.

[–] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago
[–] rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Probably not a direct transfer. But there's not so many details on who or when it will be paid.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

My guess is that it will come in the form of 'aid' from an allied country. Donald's spent so much time over the last 11 years meming about the pallets of cash that there's just no way he is going to publicly own it.

[–] elevenbones@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 day ago
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