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[–] webkitten@piefed.social 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Really love how supposed left of centre governments are falling in line to these "age verification" bills, which are bankrolled by anti-LGBT far right groups designed to push LGBTQ kids from public life.

Also love how none of them even stop to think that this was a possibility for why these bills were being pushed when the people pushing them have flat out admitted it.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Yes. Liberals aren't your friends. They appropriated queer politics to do exactly this. People have been warning against this for decades.

They are not being tricked into doing this, this is the second time the Liberal party alone has tried this along with other proposals from Cons and other internet authoritarianism policies like lawful access. They know what it is for and they understand the consequences of who it'll effect. It just so happens queer people (racialized people, indigenous people, disabled people, etc.) are also disproportionately politically active and challenging to liberal capitalism, and liberals have had an exceedingly difficult time shutting that down online through censorship alone.

It is not only distortive but also dangerous to accept that this is out of stupidity and ignorance. They are attacking us. "Elbows up," awards for the people who voted for Carney because they didn't think a minority govt with a stronger NDP presence was possible.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, once one country has done it, the rest can join in with a flick of a switch.

The big sites are only too happy to hoover up and sell even more data about you.

[–] Timbo303@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago

This seems rather pointless from a business standpoint it will hurt many businesses geared towards children such as youtube kids even.

I think anyone thinking about enacting a law like this deserves to be impeached immediately the public have spoken against this and they are more valid arguments than for this.

  1. Your ID data can be hacked such as what happened with persona. I don't consider uploading your ID unless you must for a bank, phone provider, government entity, or work. No other business should ever need this info in my opinion.

  2. Selfie option will just fuel artificial intelligence. In my opinion they need to outlaw the use of scrapping age verification selfie images for ai.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Those in power hate the anonymous internet.

[–] CyberTheProtogen@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Because the things they do make the anonymous internet hate them.

Gabe Newell is a rare example of someone who is rich and has a decent amount of power but still the majority of the internet loves him

[–] UltraBlack@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Rule34: don't lock down the Internet

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

How many lawmakers are publicizing their support for Rule 34 on the internet?

Rule 34 is a famous internet maxim stating: "If it exists, there is porn of it. No exceptions." It asserts that any conceivable subject, fictional character, corporate brand, or inanimate object has been or will be depicted in explicit content somewhere online.

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ironic that this is being pushed by "liberals". They don't even bother to live up to their own failing ideology anymore.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Everyone in power wants it. They all say "It's for the children". State govs have already done it for adult sites.

[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 134 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Do you want authoritarianism, because that’s how you get it.

[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think it's already here (globally, I mean). The beast is just now confident to show its face.

[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think they just don’t care because they know no one will do anything about it. Except protest, which is for losers.

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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 45 points 1 day ago

The elites in every country are fighting together to keep us down, while we fight against each other.

There is a simple common problem.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Serious question, can we start building local infrastructure for our own internet via meshtastic and those technologies?

[–] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 1 points 12 hours ago

Seconding reticulum. Meshtastic is a toy, reticulum is actual infrastructure

[–] d3vnu1l@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago

You should check out reticulum if you haven't already. More use cases than just messaging.

[–] MML@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

We're not already doing that? (No we're not, my node is hella lonely)

[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 85 points 2 days ago (28 children)

What can we do to stop this?

[–] nul42@lemmy.ca 56 points 1 day ago (3 children)

My plan is to just never submit to an age verification. Change servers or self host if necessary. Worse comes to worse, we log off.

[–] paulcdb@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (5 children)

And what do you do when its a requirement to buy food, submit tax returns, get healthcare?

This is the problem people don’t understand. We have the same issue now in the UK. People think a voluntary system is easy ro just ignore until everything you rely and need forces you to starve or submit.

And its not going to stop at just age verification, it’ll continue until all you get to enjoy is maybe a loaf of bread, and some pond water! 🤦‍♂️

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[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's the spirit.

I'll watch the system burn to the ground before I agree to privacy invasion.

[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But it won't burn, it will be content to leave you behind.

[–] MrOtingocni@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Leave us behind? Where is it going?

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (14 children)

And so what? Many of us left Reddit because it killed 3rd party apps to force us onto its shitty mobile app. Did it burn without us? No, I doubt they even noticed. Does that make our departure meaningless? Also no, we built something better here.

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago

TBH this is just how it goes in general I think. A small group of people build something neat, and if it attracts enough people then the corporations and money come in, they attract more people and it all goes to shit, then a small amount of people from that group leave and start a new thing. reddit was the neat little alternative thing once.

I suspect eventually we'll probably have to build a second internet lol

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[–] TerdFerguson@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

WE NEED

::: spoiler


online age verification :::

TO PROTECT CHILDREN

[–] nao@sh.itjust.works 40 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Why does every government want age verification now, what's in it for them? Can't be one started and everyone saw it and thought that's a great idea let's introduce it too?

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I suspect it's just their way of inching towards requiring everyone to provide ID to access the internet, they pretty much always wrap this stuff up in some sort of "protect the children" hysteria, so they can accuse anyone who protests it of being a pedophile.

Also Meta is lobbying for it so they can get off the hook for having to moderate their own stuff by shunting the responsibility onto someone else.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 94 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Because it de facto requires everyone using the internet to provide their identity, which is something that gives authoritarian types a huge boner. Once there is no such thing as anonymous discourse, it becomes trivial to target/arrest/harass/brutalize dissenters or indeed anyone the current regime simply doesn't like.

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It gives any gov a huge boner, not just athoritarians, that's the real problem.

[–] nao@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

maybe they are secretly authoritarian too

[–] Airfried@piefed.social 26 points 2 days ago

This amount of surveillance has a really disturbing track record in history. So assuming any politician backing this must be a fascist at heart is the correct approach. These politicians should not be in any position to make any of these decisions. They can't represent democracy when they declare themselves the enemies of it.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It’s part of the data center push, Palantir, all of it. Centralized info storage so if anyone starts to push back anywhere they know exactly who and where. That and ads. The internet is too anonymous.

It’s the same set of billionaires. A little line between countries doesn’t mean much to them.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's so blatant too, for anyone with half a brain. We're part of 5 Eyes, there's like 97 data centres being built or already in the late stages of approval here, and all of our internet traffic is controlled by 3 mega ISPs in moustache and glasses. We're already being tracked pretty thoroughly. Conservatives or Liberals, it doesn't matter when it comes to selling Canadians off to foreign corporate entities.

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[–] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 12 points 1 day ago

I tried warning thee Canadians months ago. The assault is upon the common man. These bastards are going to enslave us and run off with a bunch of cash.

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