It's more and more clear that the Wikipedia editors made the right choice in deciding that the US lost the war:
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On the bright side, green energy is looking better and better each day the straight remains closed.
Trump's bumbling is really helping the planet, ironically.
Hopefully this helps drive a big wedge between Israel and the US. Lets stop giving them any weapons and aid. Tired of my tax dollars supporting a rich country dead set on genocide. Israel can handle their own affairs.
That might be what Iran is thinking with this. Israel's continued existance is incompatible with peace, so splitting them off from their sugar daddy will help
USA and UK created Israel for a reason, and they're fine with Israel's actions.
Israel is doing what it was created to do.
Hopefully when American strategic reserves run dry, America goes into a depression and collapses!
The title has since changed:
Iran Foreign Ministry says Strait of Hormuz is open after IRGC warned it was closed — sparking confusion
Trump claims Iran deal is ‘unconditional surrender,’ says his power has ‘no limits’
did not help either
This moron can’t stop running his mouth. A person like this can’t handle diplomacy - his fragile egomania will always get in the way.
THE ART OF THE DEAL!
(written by a ghostwriter)
Unconditional surrender, for the US, I suppose?
Let's see these "no limits" against Israel, hmm?
id say this is 3d chess but its more like being a nation-state 101. Iran expertly played israel and america off eachother to get exactly what they wanted and give neither america or israel anything, all while driving a wedge between these two assholes.
it would be impressive if they pulled this off against highly-capable nations with well developed diplomatic corps. As it stands it kind of feels mean to big up Iran for dunking on what are effectively two asshole toddlers screaming about their toys
American diplomacy had been obliterated in past 10 years
While I can't root for any party involved in this, I have to say I'm really glad to see someone is holding America by the balls big time.
Israel isn't gonna stop
I concur. Putin is a bad guy. Trump is a bad guy. Nethanyahu is a bad human (just for once I misuse the word human)
While this seems plausible — likely even — it appears this is only being reported by the NY Post, a known neonazi propaganda rag. I would wait for more confirmation.
Yeah, I'd wait, too.
It's also reported by German t-online (which also isn't a reliable news source).
https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/ausland/internationale-politik/id_101304268/iran-schliesst-strasse-von-hormus-wegen-israelischen-angriffen-erneut.html
They do name their sources:
X profiles @sentdefender and @Faytuks
When you negotiate with lying egomaniacal assholes who never say the same thing twice .... what do you expect is going to happen?
TBF the didn’t say they were surprised.
This whole thing is stupid as fuck.
I've got no special love for Israel, but they are still an independent country that is not obligated to do as we ask.
Trump made a deal that promises they'll do something- a promise he had no standing to make. That's like if I promised everyone reading this thread that if you upvote me, Elon Musk will give you a million dollars. I have no authority to make that promise because Elon never agreed to it, and he's not bound by my statements.
And since apparently Israel never agreed to this, and in fact said openly they don't agree, this whole deal was bullshit from the start.
Hope we didn't send the money yet...