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[–] mabeledo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

No worries, immigrants aren’t lining up to settle in Poland.

But maybe they want polish people to return to their homeland from the UK?

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 7 points 7 hours ago

TAX. THE. RICH.

A manufactured crisis because capitalism 🤡

[–] MolochHorridus@piefed.social 34 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

”Migration…has not solved the problem; it has only brought ghettoisation, assimilation problems, social unrest, and everything else western Europe is grappling with today,” said Nawrocki.

Migration has not brought those problems. Your political system is the problem. Would you expect people to reproduce when you ban abortion, push women into caregiver roles and rank one of the lowest in LGBTQ+ rights in the Europe.

In other words you’re not so great at human rights, so why would humans make more humans in Poland?

Also, it might help if Nawrocki wouldn’t sound like right wing asswipe in the quote.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 47 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

The prioritization of the "normal family" has been a staple piece of right wing rhetoric since the nazis. Its so transparent its actually laughable. Just accept the fact that degrowth is the future.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago

Its so transparent its actually laughable.

It's only transparent to people who have studied modern history, and political history, which is why the fascist oligarchs have built a global propaganda network targeting the self proclaimed "not political". It's much easier to con the ignorant, uneducated, selfish, sociopathic, &/or psychopathic.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 24 points 13 hours ago

Again "immigrants are a problem". It's the fucking rich that are destroying countries world-wide. Tax their wealth. This guy is just a pawn of the rich.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 14 points 13 hours ago

Far right racist, says far right racist things, news at 12! /s

[–] sidebro@lemmy.zip 21 points 15 hours ago

We must “promote the idea that family is the most important thing; this is our Polish response to the demographic crisis

[–] crandlecan@mander.xyz 16 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 12 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I mean that's a valid option too, instead of "line must go up 📈", eternal growth mindset. Could be more sustainable too to allow populations to shrink.

[–] Xerxos@lemmy.ml 2 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Sure, but it generates a lot of problems.

The biggest problem: How can the older generation live if the younger generation can't support them?

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

taxing the rich properly for once oughta do it (& preventing their own human and capital flight)

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

It's a problem right now because the whole system has been built for eternally bigger profits and eternal growth. And it will be an issue while there's a big elderly population. But that's an issue right now and in the future, with the mindset of sustainability it won't really be an issue.

[–] Melchior@feddit.org 5 points 12 hours ago

The thing is with a smaller population, you still have all the stuff developed for a country with a much larger population. So you do not have to put work into building more housing, transport infrastructure and so forth. That work can then be used to support the elderly. The bigger part of that is that less workers means the ratio between capital and workers shifts in favour of the workers. So they can ask for higher wages.

[–] copacetic@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

The usually converts a lot of mindsets from "let's build the future" into "fight for dwindling resources" and results in a quite toxic community.

[–] protist@retrofed.com 11 points 13 hours ago

Uhh...the resources dwindle faster with more people, so I'm not understanding your point

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 7 points 14 hours ago

I think it would be healthy to try and find an acceptable balance where you are able to keep up the lifestyle and still have people comfortable. The idea that the economy must always be growing, profits must always be higher and we must always have more and newer stuff is going to ruin the planet.

[–] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 3 points 11 hours ago

It's called social dumping, and all the executives and politicians love it - off camera of course.

But then they start complaining about leopards eating faces and how mozlems are scawwy - even though Norway has received a TON of socially dumped Polish workers.

Perhaps it's time we send them back then.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 4 points 14 hours ago

Massive amounts of foreign workers who often are paid less, do shittier jobs and face much more abuse from corporations and employers (and in general) to try and get that ever so important gdp growth and often to get away from paying proper wages, following union rules etc. It was always a pretty sketchy plan fit for the wealthy owning class.

-- Mściwoj, look it's a picture of a normal family
-- Make it more yellow
-- What?

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space -5 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Poland must at all costs be protected from the humiliation of having its culture defiled by some equivalents of chicken tikka masala or döner kebab arising in it

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 6 hours ago

/s?

Tikka masala and döner kebab are the much older cultures. If Polish culture is so advanced, why could communism hold back science, art and ingenuity so much that the West could outpace the East?

[–] bluefootedbooby@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 hours ago

Too late, kebab is already a national dish 🤷